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  • 1.  Toilet Training

    Posted 02-23-2023 11:31 AM

    Good Morning,

    I am struggling with something and I would love to have your input!  In our center, we have always worked with the families on however they choose to go about toilet training their kiddos... More and more families are wanting to go with the commando method.  My concern is that at least when they have underwear on, the underwear catch the chunks from BMs and absorb some of the urine.  With children going commando in the center, we have children having accidents with their BM falling out of pant legs and on the floor... This is too much for me, the urine is much easier to clean up and sanitize the carpet ... What is your policy?  I cannot find anything in licensing or from the public or environmental health regarding this. What are your thoughts?

    I greatly appreciate your input!



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    Beth Storer
    Director
    Laramie County Community College Children's Discovery Center
    Cheyenne WY
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  • 2.  RE: Toilet Training

    Posted 02-23-2023 06:26 PM

    Beth,

    I had the same problem at one time, but I develop a strategy that works for me. Right after the child eat or drink, I wait 3-5 minutes and then put the child on the potty. Not sure what the rules are with licensing, but I give the child a book or their favorite toy and set the timer for 5-10 minutes. If nothing happens, add another 1-3 minutes. Let me know what happens. Good luck. 



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    Patricia Stephens
    Director
    PBS Academy
    Missouri City TX
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  • 3.  RE: Toilet Training

    Posted 02-24-2023 11:53 AM

    This is a new one on me also!  Just yesterday, we had a toilet trained child have an accident and mom failed to bring extra underwear.  Mom is my step-daughter and I felt confident in my grandson's training and mom's opinion that putting him in a diaper would not be optimal.  I suggested commando.  HUGE mistake on my part.  They were on the playground and my grandson took something (yes, holding it in his hands) to the teacher.  She asked him what it was and he smiled and said, "Poop"!  

    She told me that story and I fell out!!  However, unsanitary and disgusting!  This question comes at a great time for me.  If it isn't policy now, it will be soon.  Children need underwear for a multitude of reasons.  

    And, it has been my experience when parents get called to bring supplies to the center ASAP, it isn't generally forgotten or considered to go without again!

    Thanks for the thoughts and I hope my little story made you smile. 



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    Shawn Wagner
    Owner/Director
    Kids' Campus Child Care
    Sweeny TX
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  • 4.  RE: Toilet Training

    Posted 02-24-2023 09:49 AM

    That is the first one for me in all my teaching years. Going commando in preschool? I totally disagree with this. Children should wear underwear. Going commando is not hygienic. I could go on and on but this is just unacceptable.



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    Heather Natonabah
    Preschool teacher
    Hanaadli FACE Center-base Program
    Farmington NM
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  • 5.  RE: Toilet Training

    Posted 02-25-2023 11:10 AM

    Good morning to al

    Going commando, This is definitely NOT ACCEPTABLE.  I know DCF wouldn't accept it neither.  Potty training is difficult.

    What we do in our Preschool is: We have our floater help the PreK 2 teacher during potty training time.  She assist while the teacher is doing the training.  If the floater and/or Office Staff is not available then the PreK 2 teacher could use some of her T.V.  Time with educational and/or Bible Stories we use for Chapel.  This has been working for years.  The students need to have a lot of change of clothing for the accidents that occur.  Some students are learn quickly, some are a little slower in the learning process.  However, before they more to their next classroom level they need to be Potty Trained.  So it's a teams job; Teacher and parents at home.  Home training is super important.

    Hope this information works for you..

    Blessings,



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    Nelida Rosado
    Preschool Director
    Calvary City Christian Academy & Preschool
    Orlando FL
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  • 6.  RE: Toilet Training

    Posted 02-25-2023 11:35 AM

    I ask parents/ guardians to put the underwear on. I always explain that in the group setting we have to do things a bit differently as we have to think about all the children we have in our care. 



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    Ljiljana Jotanovic
    Lead Toddler Teacher
    San Diego Cooperative Preschool
    San Diego CA
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  • 7.  RE: Toilet Training

    Posted 02-24-2023 10:04 AM

    Hello,

    I believe this would fall under the category of bodily fluids and the risk of spreading illness through bacteria. We had a family who had proposed this for their child, Mom was a doctor, and I emphatically said "no". The extra burden it puts on staff and the lack of cleanliness in the environment (carpets and areas that will take much more than just a simple scrub to clean), is not the responsibility of the center staff, but that of the parent. Here is an article that talks about the 3-Day method: 3-Day Potty Training Method: How It Works and How to Prepare- Parenting

    My belief is, If the parents choose to use this method, it should be done when they have 3 solid days of training with their child. In times of program crisis and staffing shortages for childcare programs, putting more issues on providers is not going to benefit anyone. 

    Respectfully- Krista



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    Krista Gylund

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  • 8.  RE: Toilet Training

    Posted 02-24-2023 07:24 PM

    Hi Beth,

    Thank you for posing a very good question. At our school, we listen to and accept suggestions from the parents, however, going commando for toilet learning is not something we would ever accept, not only because it is unsafe and unsanitary to spread urine and fecal matter in the children's and adult's common areas, but having the child expose their private area violates their right for privacy. 

    We help children get comfortable using the toilet while in diapers, and once they show the signs that they understand the whole process of discharging their bodily fluids in the toilet by going, at least, pee-pee every time they sit on the toilet, and when we also notice they end up with dry diapers after long periods of time, we agree with the parents to switch diapers to the training underwear (they are a bit thicker at the bottom). Once a child starts wearing the training underwear, we take them to the bathroom every 30 minutes to an hour, it depends on the individual needs. We do face a few accidents here and there, but mostly in their thick training underwear, but children, eventually, learn not to have those accidents at all.

    Commando-style training is something suitable for an in-home use, not at school where there is a group setting.



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    Ranum Magellan
    Co-Founder
    Arcadia Playschool Inc.
    Arcadia CA
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  • 9.  RE: Toilet Training

    Posted 02-25-2023 10:35 AM

    That seems extremely unsanitary to me! Do have guidelines from Minimum Standards? Or your health department?



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    Cathy McAuliffe, PhD
    *Coast Bend Chapter of TXAEYC Member
    *NorthWest Arkansas Community College Adjunct Professor
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