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  • 1.  Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-11-2022 09:57 AM
    Good Morning,
    I know this is going to open a huge can of worms, but I am just curious about how everyone feels about teaching gender identity in preschool/prek. I personally have a lot of concerns with the fact that it will be to much for their young brains to comprehend. I am not inferring we ban inclusion on this topic. I am fine with pictures of each everyone's families being on the wall, and all parents/caregivers coming to classroom functions, or answering question with developmentally appropriate answers. I am not saying "ban the word gay" I just think its heavy and not necessarily the right for the preschool environment.  Just to clarify too, I don't think any type of sex education belong is preschool or the very early grades of elementary school. If a child has a question we can answer it, and then we should inform the parent so they can address at the level that they want too.

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    Katie

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  • 2.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-11-2022 10:24 AM
    Hi Katie, 
     
    A recent Hello thread "Transgender Expression in 3 year olds?" touched on this topic and is full of fabulous resources for this topic. One of the resources that seemed to be helpful is the book "Supporting Gender Diversity in Early Childhood Classrooms" by the Gender Justice in Early Childhood team. I would recommend reading through that thread to help navigate this topic. 

    Also, out of curiosity. Do you discuss whether the children in your care are girls or boys? Because if you do you have already begun a form of gender identity education in your classroom. 

    I hope the resources listed above are of help. 



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    Marie Preptit
    Nashville TN
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  • 3.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-11-2022 10:37 AM
    Hi Marie,
    I am not actually in a classroom anymore. So I cant address your question. I think when I do encounter a group I say good morning  friends. It's the books I have seen that say it does not matter what boy or girl parts you have, that that does not mean you are a boy or a girl. I will check out the resource you mentioned.

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    Katie
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  • 4.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-12-2022 06:12 AM
    Katie, I with you

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    Susana (Sussy) Borrego
    Spanish Early Childhood Educator
    Charlotte Bilingual Preschool
    Charlotte NC
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  • 5.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-12-2022 08:08 AM
    Hi Katie,
    Thank you for your question. You mention two different types of social identity in your post. One is gender. The other is sexual orientation. These are very different aspects of a person's sense of self. I agree that preschoolers don't need sex education, which is not required in order to talk about gender or family structure. I teach about social identity in a course called Families & Communities in ECE and we use the textbook Anti-Bias Education for Ourselves and Young Children (Derman-Sparks and Edwards with Goins). It goes into extensive detail about how to teach concepts related to all kinds of social identity in a developmentally appropriate way. My students are extremely diverse in culture, religion, race, gender, age, and ability and there is a palpable appreciation by all from the clarity provided in this text. You can get it through NAEYC for a reasonable member price: https://www.naeyc.org/resources/pubs/books/anti-bias-education In this book gender is described as having distinct yet interrelated aspects such as, "assigned sex, gender role, gender identity, gender expression, and sexuality". They go on to provide a context and guidance related to the confusion between sexuality and other aspects of gender development, "To fully understand gender development in the early years, it is also necessary to distinguish the concepts of sexuality, sexual orientation, and sexual behavior (which come into play more fully as children grow) from the other components of young children's developmental paths. (See the glossary for definitions of these terms). Anxiety about a child's sexuality often underlies a parent's concern that a child playing or dressing contrary to gender binary expectations will set the child up for shaming or bullying and that such play can shape the child's eventual sexual behavior." The authors also provide a lot of information on the other aspects of gender as well as transgender children. 
    As a queer person I have always found it easy to explain my own family and same sex couples to children using simple and literal terms that they understand like, "There are two women/moms/dads/men in their family". These are the facts that children can see and understand, that have nothing to do with sex education. One year, I had a two-mom family who chose the names Mama and Papa for themselves, even though both moms used she/her pronouns. My preschoolers heard the term Papa and assumed that he/him pronouns were the ones to use. I explained in a factual way, "Chris is a woman, she just chose 'Papa' for her parent name. You can say 'she'." Their brains are so efficient at accommodating new concepts that they just said, "Oh, ok," and switched the use of the pronouns when referring to Chris. 
    A video I like that touches on the science of gender identity and the brain during prenatal development is from Dr. Karissa Sanbonmatsu: https://www.ted.com/talks/karissa_sanbonmatsu_the_biology_of_gender_from_dna_to_the_brain?language=en 
    A children's book that I love for it's inclusivity and simple, factual language related to how families are made is What Makes a Baby? (linked to a read-aloud by the author, Cory Silverberg). It can be a great fit for the oldest preschoolers when someone in the class is welcoming a baby sibling and the children start asking questions about where babies come from.
    I could go on for a long time about this topic. It's so complex! I bounced around a lot - hope that something I shared was helpful.
    Sincerely,
    Lauren

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    Lauren Stauble
    Consultant/Faculty
    Boston, MA
    feelthinkconnect.com
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  • 6.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-12-2022 11:41 AM
    Lauren, I appreciate your well-thought-out response AND the resources.  Thank you so much!

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    Cathy McAuliffe, PhD
    *Children's Coalition of Aransas County Executive Board Vice-President
    *Coast Bend AEYC Interim President
    *NorthWest Arkansas Community College Adjunct Professor
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  • 7.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-13-2022 09:07 AM
    Thank you so much. I have always just explain "joey" has 2 moms and went on with life. It's never seemed to be an issue with the children. I've had a couple parents come to me with concerns that I've had to address but the children are always excepting and open. I've never thought about the are you a boy/girl question as setting someone up for bulling later in life. Teaching that is just one of the developmental questions in the Brigance evaluation so we talk about how daddy's are boys and mommy's are girls. I've never talked about parts or anything. I'm yet to have a child insist they are the opposite sex. I have had a few very feminine males that I didn't push the sex question much but they both identified themselves as boys so I left it alone. I'm not sure what I would do if I ran across the other. I would probably just leave it be. My concern is the child get marked as having cognitive delay over this.

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    Kisha Gripp
    Education Administrator
    Friendship Pediatric Services-Bryant
    Bryant AR
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  • 8.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-13-2022 11:07 AM
    Kisha, your concerns are valid! I think we have a long way to go with assessments in early childhood education (and beyond). We have to think critically about what we are actually assessing. In a conversation about the ASQ the other day I was reminding my students that you cannot rely on the results of this screening tool for a child who does not speak the same language as the person conducting it, because of the verbal instructions for cognitive and fine motor tasks. In Teaching and Learning with Infants and Toddlers Mary Jane Maguire-Fong points out that social knowledge "refers to the names and cultural conventions invented by peoplelike language and expectations for behavior." If we are assessing social knowledge we need a clear understanding and appreciation of the names and cultural conventions that are valuable to our students' families and communities, as well as an awareness of the names and cultural conventions that belong to us. Social knowledge evolves with each generation. I think we need to leave space for the unknown, and assume that our current students are going to one day teach us about concepts we cannot even imagine. I think this is what John Dewey meant when he wrote, "...The more the educator knows of music the more [she/they/he] can perceive the possibilities of the inchoate musical impulses of a child. Organized subject matter represents the ripe fruitage of experiences like theirs, experiences involving the same world, and powers and needs similar to theirs. It does not represent perfection or infallible wisdom; but is the best at command to further new experiences which may...surpass the achievements embodied in existing knowledge and works of art."
    All this to say, I hope you and other ECE folx who notice these miscues in assessment tools will speak up when you see them. And most importantly, work to make changes within your context.


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    Lauren Stauble
    Consultant/Faculty
    Boston, MA
    feelthinkconnect.com
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  • 9.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 06-02-2022 12:50 AM
    Hi, I currently have a three year old in care who insists she is a girl. ( she has boy genitals.) Her parents are working to understand what the best thing to do for their child. I believe accepting this child for who they believe they are is best. What do you think? Josie

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    Josephine Silver
    Director
    Peaceful Earth Village Childcare and Preschool
    Corvallis OR
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  • 10.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 06-02-2022 08:21 AM
    Hi Josephine,
    NAEYC has a helpful article to frame your question in the context of ethics. I hope you'll find it helpful: https://www.naeyc.org/resources/pubs/yc/nov2019/gender-expression-identity 
    Sincerely,
    Lauren

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    Lauren Stauble
    Consultant/Faculty
    Boston, MA
    feelthinkconnect.com
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  • 11.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 06-02-2022 10:20 AM
    This is reminding me of how few resources there have been up until recently to help early childhood teachers understand how gender, sex and sexuality differ. We should be taught the correct scientific meaning of these important words. For example, "Mother" are not typically children, it is very confusing to tell a.child that "mommies are girls", when we actually mean women. I'm looking forward to reading of the newer resources.

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    Mars April Caulton

    Chicago IL
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  • 12.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 06-06-2022 03:34 PM

    Children's books that depict diversity but focus on everyday life are important for any classroom bookshelf. When we review the 3000 picture books published each year, we look for books that include illustrations of children that represent our communities and classrooms.

    Every child should see themselves skipping rope, going to the library, holding hands with caregivers and a myriad of other seemingly ordinary occurrences in daily life.

    Here is a short list of our favorite titles which depict diverse characters in familiar settings and situations:

    Best Day Ever     Written by Marilyn Singer. Illustrated by Leah Nixon.

    Listen    Written by Gabi Snyder. Illustrated by Stephanie Graegin.

    My City Speaks  Written by Darren Lebeuf. Illustrated by Ashley Barron. 

    Home Is a Window   Written by Stephanie Parsley Ledyard. Illustrated by Chris Sasaki.

    Just Like a Mama   Written by Alice Faye Duncan. Illustrated by Charnelle Pinkney Barlow.             

    Mayhem at the Museum   Illustrated by Luciano Lozano.

    Lola Goes to School   Written by Anna McQuinn. Illustrated by Rosalind Beardshaw.         

    Oscar's Tower of Flowers   Written and illustrated by Lauren Tobia.

    Perfectly Imperfect Mira   Written and illustrated by Faith Pray.



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    Amy Vandament
    President
    The Book Vine for Children
    Mchenry IL
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  • 13.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 06-07-2022 11:41 AM

    Thank you for the short list. 

    High quality literature and illustration are so important to this topic because these books signal to both children and adults that the characters, their lives, experiences, and concerns are relevant and have standing in our culture at large. 

    Both early learners and caregivers who feel unsure about their story reading talent need high quality illustrations which convey story complexity. When text is a barrier, high quality illustrations invite engagement with storytelling through picture walks and promote deep conversations about the topic. 

    Those of us from "minority" communities are no doubt familiar with a certain style of literature where the author feels the urgency to educate children about a serious topic of concern to us but doesn't possess the writing talent to grab the reader's interest and the illustrations are often basic and uninspiring. Of course, there are reasons for this, both economic and related to publishing industry gate keepers.

    At the same time there is industry tokenism, where "minority" characters are inserted to create the visual appearance of diversity without creating culturally specific or plausible stories and settings. 

    Please keep sharing the gems you find!



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    Karen Lefkovitz
    Independent Consultant
    Philadelphia PA
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  • 14.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-13-2022 02:15 PM
    Hi Katie,
    I'm glad you asked this question.  I've been thinking about these issues a lot, both with my toddler and preschool aged children and my teenage nieces.  I've also been talking about them a lot with the oldest of my kids- who is gender non binary adult.  

    What I notice is that we teach gender identity a lot and always have.  We admire dresses that little girls are wearing, notice how hard toddler boys can kick a ball, and giggle about how a 3 year old girl who is friends with a 3 year old boy has a "boy friend".   Mostly we do this unconsciously, but it is teaching kids a lot about gender. fo It is teaching them that there is a right way to be a boy or a girl, that you can't have ordinary friendships with folks who's gender is different from yours.  We are teaching them that we are enthusiastic about certain things about them based on their gender.    I asked my gender non binary adult kid why they were so attached to dresses as a young child.  They said "mom, I was a chronically ill kid with sensory issues.  Teachers treated me better and cut me more slack when I was wearing girly clothes".  

    We also often teach about sexual identities a lot without thinking much  about it.  We read lots of books with mommies and daddies, tell kids to bring things home to mom and dad as well as singing about mama shark and daddy shark or mama bear and papa bear (always using both). 

    I wonder how different my life would have been as a lesbian if I had had even one book with two mommies in it read to me as a young child.  I couldn't have asked my teachers any questions about being gay.  I didn't know it was an option, until I had gone through a lot of struggles- trying to fit in during my elementary and teen age years. 

    I don't believe we need to be talking to young children about sex.  They aren't interested.  But I do believe we need to do a few key things. 
    • Make sure children know that we value who they are and that they don't need to restrict who they are based on gender or sexual orientation.  
    • Make sure that children know that we value all kinds of families (this applies to all children- all the time- I can't know who is currently living with a grandma, an auntie or two moms and dads.  Many families hide the ways they are outside the norm for fear of mistreatment by teachers and schools.  And I can't know who will grow up to live that way, or who might be living that way next week)
    • Make sure that children know that I respect their right to know for themselves who they are and what they want and need (including knowing the complexities of their own gender identity)
    • Make sure that children get positive messages from me and their parents about all kinds of people (including race, gender identity, sexual orientation, socio economic status, language, religion etc.) before they hear any slurs.  If a child is going to grow up to be transgender or gay, they need to hear about that in a relaxed positive way before they hear their first slur.  Sadly, most kids are hearing derogatory language based on race, gender, language, religion or other parts of people's identity by first grade.  Most of that happens out of ear shot of adults- so our work as early childhood educators needs to be proactive.  
    • Make sure kids know how to be respectful of others.  When we talk to kids about differences in a relaxed, age appropriate way, starting early, they become confident, capable adults who value their own differences and are able to build relationships across many kinds of differences.  And that, above all else is what i want for every kid I know.  


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    [Meg] [Thomas]
    she/her
    [Early childhood consultant
    Co-facilitator for Diversity and Equity Interest Forum
    [St Paul ] [MN]
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  • 15.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-14-2022 08:35 AM
    Thank you, Lauren and Meg for your insightful comments.  I have a couple of resource recommendations.  I also want to say that I've worked with a few Transgender and Gender Nonbinary three year olds.  They came to this themselves without any adult input.  All of the adults I know who are Transgender and/or Nonbinary (not a fixed gender) say that theyeither knew this when they were very, very young and either didn't have the language for it or weren't listened to.  Others wish they had known that young as they feel loike it would have prevented years of pain and confusion.
    People might be interested in the book Supporting Gender Diversity in Early Childhood Classrooms.  The website Welcoming Schools has a lot of resources, including book lists and trainings.   https://welcomingschools.org
    This video is the CBS interview of one boy whose family was able to listen to and support him when they realized that it was actualy harming him for them not to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTncHeKrcg

    The science is catching up--it has been shown that XX and XY are not always the only genetic markers, and aren't true for everyone.
    National Geographic did a special years ago, interviewing 9 year olds around the world about their gender.  One 9 year old Transgender girl said: "The best thing about being a girl is now I don't have to pretend to be a boy".  

    LGBTQ+ kids--expecially Trans kids--are at high risk for self-harm, homelessness, suicidality, and other mental health problems caused not by their identity, but by bullying and lack of support.  That's why the issue is so important.

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    Aren Stone
    she/her/hers
    Child Development Specialist
    The Early Years Project
    Cambridge, MA
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  • 16.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-13-2022 07:28 PM
    Why can't little boys be little boys and little girls be little girls. When did it become a bad thing for there to be boys and girls? Boys are amazing and girls are awesome! Why can't that just be enough. 
    There is a great book called Wired to Move!: Facts and Strategies for Nurturing Boys in Early Childhood Settings by Ruth Hanford Morhard It is an amazing book about the brain of boys and the wonderful and sometimes challenging ways they are different from a girls brain. Both brains are amazing, but the difference is fascinating. Case in point, It explains why it is easier for girls to multi-task but it is harder for boys to, among so many other great hands on information about boys and why they are often prejudiced against in daycares. My point is that Boys and Girls are wonderfully different. Each is one half of a complex puzzle, and to understand humanity you must embrace each sex and celebrate their difference and not compete between the two. 
    There is an old saying, "Out of the mouth of babes" Children sometimes are smarter than we are. We are muddling up something that children don't have an issue with, and neither should we. Let us embrace boys being boys and girls being girls and leave them alone.

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    Christine Luna
    Newborn Specialist
    Parenting Coach
    Only Happy Noises
    Painesville. OH
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  • 17.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-14-2022 07:52 AM
    Christine,
    Thank you for your questions and sharing your opinion. Yes, there are many children for whom the terms "boy" or "girl" affirm who they are! I was one of those children. The word, "girl" felt right to me as a child. As an adult the word, "woman" matches who I am. I am glad that I learned the word girl and that I had a social concept that reflected who I was and am. I felt safe in that as a child and now as an adult. When we are talking about gender identity development in the context of anti-bias education it includes these options - boy and girl. The problem is that when we limit our languaging and thinking to only these two choices we exclude a small percentage of humans for whom these words and concepts do not apply. We know that a sense of belonging is crucial for engaged learning and healthy brain development. In contrast, a sense of exclusion, or lack of recognition builds up over time and leads to mental health risks. Here are some informative statistics:
    "Most concerning, is that transgender people are at a higher risk of suicide. The 2011 National Transgender Discrimination Survey found that in the United States, 41 percent of transgender and gender non conforming people had attempted suicide, compared to a national average of just 4.6 percent. More than 50 percent of transgender youth will have had at least one suicide attempt by their 20th birthday. This is a staggering statistic that has several contributing factors outside of gender dysphoric symptoms. Internalized transphobia is a significant factor that increases suicide risk. Being transgender in a transphobic society can negatively impact thoughts and beliefs and in turn cause feelings of low self-worth, anxiety, depression and self-hatred. Specifically, with each episode of transgender victimization, such as physical or verbal harassment or abuse, the likelihood of self-harming behavior increases by 2.5 times on average. Additionally, rejection by friends and family increases suicide risk; rejected transgender youth are 13 times more likely to attempt suicide than transgender youth who are supported by their parents, according to the Trans PULSE Project." (Wasell 2016)
    Transgender humans exist and are members of our communities and schools.
    Unfortunately, many of us can remember a time when we felt "othered" in some aspect of our social identity whether it was related to gender, class, ability, culture, race, age, religion, etc. In order to practice empathy for children and/or their family members for whom "boy" and "girl" do not fit (and for children who are minoritzed in any way in our classrooms) we can remember what the absence of a sense of belonging feels like and work to make sure that doesn't happen for this generation. We can offer space for additional terms and concepts related to social identity. For those of us who are cisgendered women and men (our sex assigned at birth matches our personal sense of self) we likely need to do some research to learn about transgender identities, like you have already begun for boys. 
    Something else to note is that separate from transgender folx there are people who are intersex, which means that their physical body does not match up clearly with either "boy" or "girl" at birth. This is also a small percentage of children and/or their family members who deserve to be recognized and affirmed in their learning community settings. 
    Sincerely,
    Lauren

    Citation:
    Wasell, Marilee Maki. "Identifying the risk factors & treating transgender youth." Psychology Today, vol. 49, no. 4, July-Aug. 2016, p. 14. Gale OneFile: Psychology, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A456900805/PPPC?u=mlin_b_bunkhcc&sid=bookmark-PPPC&xid=fdb5e688. Accessed 14 Apr. 2022.


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    Lauren Stauble
    Consultant/Faculty
    Boston, MA
    feelthinkconnect.com
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  • 18.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 18 days ago

    I see this thread is 2 years old--I hope some of you are up for revisiting the topic. We have a 3 year old girl in our program, Sydney. Sydney has a "mama" named Sam who gave birth to her. Sam identifies as they/them. Sydney's "papa" is Scott, who identifies as he/him. I am completely comfortable with family diversity, and diversity in general. Here is my delimma. Sydney's parents want us to refer to her as they/them. This is their preference, not their child's. I am wondering how it affects all of the children when one is singled out like this. Sydney is not in my classroom yet, but will be next year. I want to have some conversations with the parents about the appropriateness of this practice. Her current classroom teachers mostly go along with the request although I know they "slip up" a lot. In my pre-K classroom, I know there will be questions about this. "Is she a girl or a boy?" "She has girl parts--why do you call her they"?

    I have really been thinking about gender words and whether they're appropriate or not in early childhood settings. It seems to me that there should be some choice involved, but is it the parents' place to make this choice for their child? How confusing is it for other children to go by he/she, her/him...and one child to only be called they? If I was going to do a thesis I would call it Elminating Gender Words in Early Childhood Programs--Can we do it? Would we want to? I also think about male/female equality--how far we've come, and how far we still need to go. Do gender words, or lack thereof, move us forward, or set us back? I am against gender bias and gender conformity, however the words for gender itself...I don't know. Especially in preschool. What do you think?



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    Amy Robinson
    Specialist
    CSN ECE Lab School
    NV
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  • 19.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 17 days ago

    Mama is "they", Papa is "him", they are raising their child, at this point, to use "they" pronouns. No child chooses their pronouns at birth--adults choose pronouns for them, including "she" and "him".. These parents have chosen a pronoun that is perhaps less understood by some because it is newer. This child has a strong role model for this already, in their mama. This child might choose differently when they're older, just as children who are taught "she" or "he" might choose "they" later..  

    "Gender words" are used daily in early childhood classrooms. Yes, it is appropriate to teach very young children about pronouns; we do it naturally in our speech multiple times an hour. You can even chage the pronouns of characters in books as you read them out loud for more inclusiveness. I've been in early childhood classrooms where children have asked me what my pronouns are--these kids had spent time talking about and learning about pronouns.  I simply answered, "My pronouns are "she" and "her".  Thank you for asking." It's complicated for adults, not so much for children, once they understand.

    I encourage you to have available for the chidlren and read out loud books like The Pronoun Book by Chris Ayala-Kronos and Melita Tirado and What are Your Words: A Book About Pronouns by Katherine Locke and Anne Passchier.  They're simple, developmentally appropriate, and clear.  This will provide support for this child and family and will foster understanding in all of the children.  It also might be interesting to see if this child comments on their own pronouns.  Through these conversations you might find out more about how this child feels.  They might be uncomfortable with their pronouns, they might be comfortable with their pronouns but uncomfortable with other people consistently questioning them, or they might express something else. In any case, they need to feel understood and supported by children and adults, whatever their pronouns are.

    Best of luck navigating this new level of inclusiveness in your classroom--it sounds like you have a strong foundation of acceptance and inclusion already. I would extend that to include the choices of these parents.  They aren't harming their child.



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    Aren Stone
    she/her/hers
    Child Development Specialist
    The Early Years Project
    Cambridge, MA
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  • 20.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 17 days ago

    I love your response- simple & powerful!

    At this point in a toddler's development thinking is concrete, not conceptual & though they are actively seeking and creating self concepts based on the culture around them & how they fit into it, they are certainly NOT critical thinkers- so keeping gender simple & actively trying to eliminate self & other limiting gender stereotypes is essential for healthy self identity for ALL the children in the class.

    what is the most critical piece of this " class/school decision is the responsibility to make ALL the children feel safe, included & respected in the school & class culture!

    To go against this family's wishes & family culture will marginalize them & their child- causing stress, & undermining both the family's wellbeing & the child growing self identity.

    If your school cannot accommodate this family's request, you are obligated to explain this to them so they are aware of the culture their child is being raised in. Assuring the family you are following their wishes while harboring doubts about whether the family's choice has the best interest of the child at heart is undermining the family. Your preschool needs to do some deep work confronting their own implicit biases in order to provide this family with the care & respect they deserve.

    Stepping down from my soapbox, I would love to share a story that illustrates just where the mind of a 3 -5 is when thinking about gender:

    once upon a time some of the foundational researchers studying gender identity taught that we should teach children male or female, man or woman by genitals. This would cut through the stereotypes & myths and present the undeniable facts…

    Not so simple-
    First, current scientific understanding of both gender identity and sex firmly supports both "categories" as spectrums , not "either or" categories.  There are multiple genes & hormones involved in creating sex, there has ALWAYS been people who have sex chromosomes other than just XX & XY.

    Second, gender is a cultural & personal construct that has many different definitions depending on the internal & external environment of individuals.

    The complexity of teaching children gender identity is nicely illustrated by an  anecdote shared by Dr. W.Andrew Collins sometimes shared in his course on the development of personality at the UMN's Child Development Center:

    Dr. Collins studied under Dr. Sandra Bem during the 1970's. She was a groundbreaking researcher in gender schema theory, and as she related during lectures, she & her husband, Dr. Daryl Bem chose the teach her children to identify gender by genitals, and followed their Childrens preferences for dress & har style regardless of sexual stereotypes. As their son was entering preschool, he wore his hair long, and pulled it back with barrettes. Another boy in the class continually called him a girl despite their son's objections, saying "you have Long hair, you wear barrettes; you are a girl."

    Finally, fed & with this other child's pestering and nonsense, Bem's son decided to end the debate with the facts; he pulled down his pants & underwear, saying-"Look, I have a penis, boys have penises, girls have vaginas, I am a boy!"

    The other boy just shook his head, " No, EVERYONE has one of those!  Girls have long hair, girls wear barrettes, you have long hair & barrettes- you are a girl."

    children have all kinds of different ideas about what makes people a man or a women, including other categories that make the class room more inclusive is NOT disruptive or confusing. After all, at this age many children still believe you can change your gender/sex by changing your clothes!

    As this child ages, they may encounter people who do not extend the same levels of acceptance- the preschool's ultimate goal is supporting this child's healthy self esteem so that when & if that occurs, the child has the resiliency and self confidence to move through it unharmed.



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    Margro] [Purple]
    [Associate Educator weekend programs]
    [Smithsonian Early Enrichment Center ]
    [MD/DC
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  • 21.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 17 days ago

    Hi Amy,  

    I'm so glad you brought this up.  It's an exciting time to be thinking about gender.  Young people are thinking about gender in more flexible ways and we as teachers get to support them and think about them.  

    A few years back, I got to spend some time with a group of queer and transgender middle and high school students about what their childhood years were like and what kind of support it would have been useful for them to have as children. They coached me through the language i could use to talk about gender with pre-school aged children.  

    One of my favorite phrases is"  ______ knows themselves better than we do, so ______ gets to decide how they  dress and act what they want to be called, just like you do."  

    As I think about how you would use language to help peers talk about the child in your classroom, it makes me think that you are right that you need time for a longer conversation with their parents.  Why do they want they/them used?  Is it because early cues make them think that their child will most likely be gender non binary?  Or is it because they themselves experienced being boxed into harmful gender roles and they are trying to protect their child from a similar experience?  What you learn in your explorations will shape how you speak with your class.  Maybe you will say " _____'s parents know that not all children feel that they are a boy or a girl, even if other people look at them and think they know for sure which of those genders they are.  They know that some people don't feel like either- so they are making sure______ has room to decide for themselves, when they are ready". (I'm using _____ instead of the name you provided, in case it is their real name, since privacy can be super important to some transgender folks)  Or maybe- depending on where your exploration together goes- you will decide together to explain in a different way.  

    If you use this explanation, you may find that some other children would like to experiment with pronoun's so then ____ will not be the only one.  Or maybe the whole class will decide to mostly use they/ them.  I am always amazed at how  flexible and supportive  young children can be, if we give them a chance.  

    As you talk to the parents- it seems important to me to that you as a teacher make it clear that you really want to support them as a family and want to make sure that their child has room to be whoever they turn out to be.  You might say that this is new to you and you want to make sure that you get it right- so that there is no confusion that might get in the way of their child's friendships with others.  

    If you can do it warmly and supportively, with no hints of judgement, you may also want to share what a young adult  who grew up in an LGBT headed family in the 1990's shared with our LGBT family group.  She told us something like this: "your child is not growing up in the same world you did  The face of homophobia and transphobia has changed.  So what would have  protected you and allowed you to thrive, is not what will protect them."  That advice guided my parenting a lot- and as the lesbian parent of a transgender young adult- I only wish I had had the understanding and foresight to follow it even more.  

    Thanks for being a person who cares enough to get it right Amy.  This work can feel hard, but it matters.  f

    warmly,

    Meg 



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  • 22.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 17 days ago

    Dear Meg,

    Thank you so much for your warm and thoughtful response! I wrote to Aren on the other thread and told her we should start a new discussion called Pronouns in the Preschool or something like that. This is such an important topic, and doing the hard work to get it right is a huge responsibility. I am new to this Hello forum, so I am not sure how to start a new conversation, but I think it would be great if our comments weren't all buried down here in these older postings.

    Respectfully,

    Amy Robinson



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    NV
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  • 23.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-15-2022 09:23 AM
    As the parent of a transgender child I have to disagree.  The science of gender is complex and it is not as simple as boys and girls. There are outward sex characteristics, genetics, and hormones among others that all interact. This is a topic we all as educators need to educate ourselves on so we can be supportive and embracing of all children. (No offence, I'm learning myself every day).

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    United Methodist Community House
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  • 24.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-15-2022 12:35 PM
    Thanks Mary for the parental perspective.  
    I've been thinking for several days about "why can't we just let them be boys and girls perspective".  I would never tell a child that they couldn't like dresses, unicorns, trucks or sports, regardless of gender.  But it's so hard to tell whether that is their own preference, or a desire to do what adults expect of them.  

    A few years ago, i did a deep dive into the research on gender.  It was hard work, as I don't have any medical background.  I would have to read the popular science version of the article to get a basic understanding, then turn back to the actual research study to see if the easier to read article was accurately portraying what the researcher said.  

    What I got out of it was the understanding that gender is way more complicated than I was taught in freshman biology.  Yes, overall boys are better at spatial tasks like mazes and that's true of male monkeys too, but that's just an average.  Many boys (human and monkey) aren't so good at those tasks and lots of girls (human and monkey) are very good at those tasks.  It's just that on average more males are good at spatial tasks than females.  None of the children I teach are completely average- so why would I assume that they'll be average about gender stuff?  .  

    In freshman biology- I was taught that it's simple.  XX genes = female  XY = male.  But my professor never mentioned XXY- or people who have XY chromosomes but also have androgen insensitivity syndrome so appear to be female, even though their genes would tell us they were male.  Nor did they tell me that the parts of the brain that send us messages about gender develop at a different time prenatally than the parts of our body that people use to determine whether a baby is male or female, before that baby is old enough to tell. There's lots more to say about that, but I don't want to write a book here- just continue the conversation. 

    Based what I learned from those difficult hours of wading through research- what I've come to is this:

    1. Make room for kids to have a wide range of preferences about clothing, activities and emotional expression.  
    2. Make sure kids have enough information to interact respectfully with themselves and others- before too many stereotypes get stuck in their brains.  
    3. Model respect in all of my interactions with children.  .  


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  • 25.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-16-2022 06:07 AM
    Thank you so much for sharing Marcy!
    I agree with you whole heartedly!
    Every day our children are bombarded with false information about gender identity mainly for no other purpose than selling more products!!
    The idea that only girls can & should wear pink is a noxious example of how inane our current gender messaging is, how removed from reality & biological fact, and how seemingly meaningless but ultimately harmful!
    "Color-coded" gender toys have become overwhelmingly accepted as "truth" even though the idea that girls wear pink, boys wear blue is barely older than television sets!
    It plays a role in perpetuating adult pay inequalities & stunting girl's education in subjects like math, computer science and engineering; the damage is real. And yet where is the outrage at teaching this false gender narrative in our nursery schools?
    it is critical that we allow children the choice & chance to follow their own inner paths of personality development in areas like gender rather than force fit them into predesigned, one size fits all, boxes.
    Of course, the information presented needs to be developmentally appropriate, and develop in complexity along with your he developing child. In preschool presenting a stuffed animal "friend" or puppet that goes by "they" rather than he or she is an excellent way to introduce this topic, as are books that have diverse families!
    Additionally, books that depict two moms or two dads rather than always a mom & dad reinforce the message that ALL families ARE families, & that ALL families BELONG in our community & will be accepted, loved & supported regardless of their make up! To this end, we need to add books with all sorts of families, from families with 1 parent or caregiver  that all live under one roof, to families with 4 parents who have separate houses, to families where mom or dad may be living across the sea, but still a part of the family's center, & coming back as soon as possible. Our preschool book shelves should be filled the diverse and inclusive family examples to send our children that the shape of their own family does not change it's importance, legitimacy or love!

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  • 26.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-18-2022 05:27 PM
    Hi again! I am so excited because my latest book order from ThriftBooks just arrived& it includes a gorgeous picture book that is EXACTLY the type of book with which we should fill our preschools❣️ Julian is a Mermaid by Jessica Love: Little Julian imagines mermaids, loves mermaids, & yearns to be one too! His abuela knows just what to do!
    I am head over heels in love with this sweet, simple book, its gorgeous artwork, and the inclusive picture of family it paints!  Please check it out, & consider adding it to your classroom.
     


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  • 27.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 04-14-2022 12:28 PM
    I have a lot of opinions but I feel like others have touched on many of them already (thanks Laurena Marie Meg and Aren!) But I would like to put in a pitch for developmentally appropriate sex ed for small kiddos too! Everyone wants to know where babies come from, and while we usually address initially with egg and sperm, when kids get older they definitely want to know how the egg and the sperm get together! Also, kids need to know what their body parts are called and what body parts are private, and we absolutely have had kids ask why some body parts are more private than others (and "just because" does not cut it). Making sure kids know the names of their body parts and concepts of consent are huge tools for the prevention and identification of abusive situations. All conversations and lesson plans have been in partnership with our parent community, but sometimes they come up in the moment and we want to be truthful and accurate with kiddos in our care.

    (Anecdote: one of our 3 year olds went to her pediatrician for a bad fall and said "I slipped on the slide and bruised my vulva" and the pediatrician said "oh did your kid go to SCCC? Mine too- that's the only place I've heard of that teaches kids the word vulva." Ha!) 

    Also I would highly recommend Bodies are Cool by Tyler Feder, which is a great way to discuss different body types, abilities, skin colors and genders in a wondering way! We hardly every read the actual words and kids just ask questions and compare themselves to the images in the book. It's awesome. 

    Also What Makes a Baby by Corey Silverberg is a wonderful book that does not assume gender of parents and talks about eggs and sperm in a super accessible way.

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    Seward Child Care Center
    Minneapolis MN
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  • 28.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 05-25-2022 05:49 PM

    The discussions that have occurred mention gender and sexual orientation. All information presented to young children regarding themselves, and others must be developmentally appropriate. Well-written books can provide children with positive messages regarding gender and sexual orientation.

    I agree with Margro that all of our preschool bookshelves should be filled with books that depict children and their families in the many ways we all live, including both similarities and differences.

    The following is a list of high-quality board books and picture books for birth to 5 years:

    Families (HC) by Shelley Rotner (A celebration of family diversity in photographs.)

    All Are Welcome (HC) by Alexandra Penfold (An exploration of similarities and differences in a school setting.)

    The Creature of Habit (HC) by Jennifer E. Smith (A humorous tale of the different ways we process change.)

    I Like This, You Like That (HC) by Linda Ashman (A positive rhyming story about differences and similarities.)

    Clive and His Babies (BD) by Jessica Spanyol (Clive enjoys playing with his dolls and sharing them with his friends.)

    Global Baby Girls (BD)by The Global Fund for Children (A board book that celebrates diversity around the world.)

    When Langston Dances (HC) by Kaija Langley (A young boy loves ballet and wants to dance.)

    Sam Is My Sister (HC) by Ashley Rhodes-Courter (Sam comes to find her true self with the support her family.)

    I'm Not a Girl (HC) by Maddox Lyons (A true story of a transgender identity journey.)

    My Shadow Is Pink (HC) by Scott Stuart (A father and son come to terms with gender identity and self-acceptance.)

    Papa, Daddy, and Riley (HC) by Seamus Kirst (A child with two dads.)

    Daddy and Dada (HC) by Ryan Brockington and Isaac Webster (The different roles of two dads.)

    Mom Marries Mum (BD) by Ken Setterington (A brother and sister celebrate the wedding of their moms.)

    Pink Is for Boys and Girls (BD) by Robb Pearlman. (All colors are for everyone!)



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    Amy Vandament
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    The Book Vine for Children
    Mchenry IL
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  • 29.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 05-27-2022 12:03 AM
    I would love some titles of books where the characters represent the range of diversity but the plot is not about diversity itself. As you know, there's a whole history of Black characters in literature to insert Blackness into the book, just as a children who is Deaf/HOH doesn't need their hearing difference to be the theme / topic/ storyline.


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  • 30.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 05-28-2022 10:10 AM

    Books published in the last 5-10 years do a much better job of having diverse characters. Here is a list from our library: https://indypl.bibliocommons.com/list/share/2075181979/2075234349



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    Shael Weidenbach
    Area Resource Manager - Youth Services
    Indianapolis Public Library
    Indianapolis IN
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  • 31.  RE: Gender Identity education

    Posted 05-28-2022 12:56 PM
    I'd agree publishers are just recently starting to address this more, its so important and they are playing catch up. Lee and Low Publishers are dedicated to this 
    other books that come to mind
    Jobari Jumps and Jobari Tries by Gaia Cornwall
    Julian is a Mermaid and Julian at the wedding by Jessica Love
    Ugly Vegetables by Grace Lin 
    The Last Stop on Market Street and Milo Imagines the World by Matt De La Pena
    The Snowy Day and all the Peter books by Ezra Javk Keats
    If You're Monster won't go to Bed by Denise Vega
    Count on me by Miguel Tanco
    Nino wrestles the World and Just a Minute by Yuyi Morales

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    Victoria Fantozzi
    Author of Digital Tools for Learning, Creating, and Thinking from NAEYC
    Manhattanville College
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