Open Discussion Forum

Expand all | Collapse all

Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

  • 1.  Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-15-2022 01:50 PM
    I am very puzzled about this topic. I have just taken a course on "Unpacking the Pyramid Model". In this course, we looked at all aspects of the how, what, why of dealing with challenging behaviors, from environments to implementing replacement skills. One chapter is devoted to determining the root causes of behaviors. I understand that in most cases, the child is displaying challenging behaviors in order to ' obtain or avoid ' something. Many times, we can usually determine the nature of the behavior by observation, collecting data, & then asking ourselves if it is due to avoid a task or person or to obtain something they want. Yet as we deal with more children coming into our programs with trauma, mental health issues, instability in their lives & other issues - are these children's behaviors caused by only the need to obtain or avoid something. I think these children have a whole different objective for the behaviors they show & they aren't even aware of it themselves. I would like to know what others think. I believe there are more deeper reasons for the behaviors of some children that have absolutely nothing to do with obtaining or avoiding.

    ------------------------------
    Sue Miller
    team leader
    Child Development Center
    Remsen IA
    ------------------------------


  • 2.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-16-2022 01:28 AM
    I have feel children often "misbehave" because they get something out of it. It's a cause and effect social experiment as they learn about how their actions cause problems, emotions and reactions. When trying to figure it out I ask myself what is the little person getting out of this? Then decide what activities I can provide to meet that need. If trauma and mental health issues are the root cause ask yourself the same question. What is this little person getting out of this behavior? Are we pushing people away or trying to bring them closer? Maybe both because life is so scary they just don't know how to react. I don't think this changes just because the root is mental health or trauma. It's just bigger and more intense. 







  • 3.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-17-2022 12:07 AM
    Pam Brillante and I - both NAEYC authors - wrote this article about working with children who are Dual Language Learners with Challenging Behaviors. 
    It provides explanations, research background, and strategies to help. This article can be found on Head Start's ECLKC website as well as on the NAEYC website as "Solving the Puzzle".

    ------------------------------
    Karen Nemeth
    Author/consultant/keynotes
    Language Castle LLC
    Allentown PA
    ------------------------------



  • 4.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-16-2022 07:23 AM
    The way I see it is some challenging behaviors are related to in the moment challenges, and some manifest due to the types of deeper issues that you mention.  Kids with trauma may behave in challenging ways because they are trying to avoid the stress they are feeling deep inside and obtain a sense of control or connection that they are lacking.

    ------------------------------
    Scott Mitchell
    Teacher
    Silver Spring Nursery School
    Maryland
    ------------------------------



  • 5.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-16-2022 09:02 AM
    Hi Sue,
    I really appreciate your question! I think this way of explaining the root causes of challenging behaviors just begins to scratch the surface. NAEYC defines challenging behaviors as "children's attempts to communicate a message". I think this definition is more expansive than simply trying to identify something the child is trying to obtain or avoid. I'm not a huge fan of the word "obtain" because it makes me think of things, which is limiting. However, if I challenge myself to broaden my interpretation of this word I can go deeper...sometimes, and maybe even most of the time, what children are trying to "obtain" is a feeling of connection with other children or their caregiver, or feeling understood, validation that they're ok to feel what they feel, and a sense of belonging. I think avoidance can be applied to at least two scenarios. One is sensory system overload. They may be trying to avoid putting their snow suit on because their brain needs help understanding the sensation of the snowsuit on their body.  Avoidance is also a healthy reaction in the context of relationships with caregivers in which they are misunderstood or judged instead of supported. In this case the adult is the one with the challenging behavior that needs to be addressed. 
    So, maybe the tip of the roots of challenging behaviors can be interpreted as at attempt to avoid or obtain something, but we only make meaningful progress if we then ask why the child would try to avoid or obtain it. What is the underlying message that children are (consciously or unconsciously) trying to communicate? This requires us to listen to children without judgement, to collaborate with families and specialists, and to design an individualized scaffolding plan that will support children's ability to access basic needs satisfaction, meaningful relationships, and curriculum. I think this is the potential of the pyramid model if we let go of its behaviorist undertones. 
    Sincerely,
    Lauren

    ------------------------------
    Lauren Stauble
    Consultant/Faculty
    Boston, MA
    feelthinkconnect.com
    ------------------------------



  • 6.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-16-2022 09:57 AM
    I'm thinking that some of the "challenging behaviors" we are seeing are evidence of developmental delays resulting from the pandemic. So children are behaving like younger children. To me, that helps me reframe the behavior as normal for a child about six months to a year younger than the child's chronological age rather than "challenging behavior." That means the environment needs to reflect their developmental age as well as our interactions.

    We have found that extending outdoor time has had a very positive effect on behavior.  The children's play and behavior are more age-appropriate outdoors for some reason.

    Just some random thoughts!

    ------------------------------
    Cathy McAuliffe, PhD
    *Children's Coalition of Aransas County Executive Board Vice-President
    *Coast Bend Chapter of TXAEYC Leader
    *NorthWest Arkansas Community College Adjunct Professor
    ------------------------------



  • 7.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-17-2022 09:55 AM
    I agree with Cathy that some of the "challenging" behaviors we are seeing are the result of the Pandemic, its isolation and the trauma of it that some families felt more than others.

    In addition, I think that thrust of the Pyramid Model provides a good framework for looking at and unpacking challenging behaviors. I have a grandson who had challenging behaviors that, if his teachers had not dug deep into thinking about his behaviors, would have led them to their own behaviors contributing to his already neuro issues.

    Adults have to become aware of their own experiences in life with challenging behaviors, how they were dealt with in their own families, ad well as their beliefs about why children behave as they do. That, to me, is the starting point, and then the Pyramid Model provides a way of exploring, perhaps explaining, and coming up with effective responses to those challenging behaviors.

    Providing children with more outdoor time doe have a good effect on many children's behavior. I would also suggest that when we expect children to learn in inappropriate ways for their age, we are contributing to the development of some challenging behaviors, which could have been avoided.

    ------------------------------
    Nora Krieger, PhD
    Associate Professor Emerita/Past Chair NJEEPRE
    Bloomfield College/NJ Educators Exploring the Practices of Reggio Emilia
    Highland Park, NJ
    ------------------------------



  • 8.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-16-2022 10:06 AM
    Yes, Sue, it is appropriate that you want to understand the roots of behavior in order to be responsive in a nurturing and competent way. Your children are fortunate that they have you willing to grasp it this way. All behavior has meaning--whether we or the young children we serve are conscious of it or not. In other words, "behavior is the language of the child" (from T. B. Brazelton) and it is how they communicate their needs. Once we understand the function of a behavior, we can figure out how to meet the underlying need. We must also realize that the "thing" they might seek could be connection to an adult; or a feeling of safety from recreating a familiar environment; or being seen and heard; or being assured they are a valued member of the group..... You get the idea: the list is infinite. Similarly, the "thing" they might be avoiding could be a feeling of fear, loneliness, frustration, etc. They absolutely might be seeking or avoiding an internal state that only an attuned caregiver can figure out. It can be draining and difficult; yet very much worth the effort! Be sure to attend to your own needs, too. "How you are is as important as what you do" (Jeree Pawl).

    ------------------------------
    Anita Osborn
    licensed educational psychologist
    self-employed
    Cassel CA
    ------------------------------



  • 9.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-16-2022 01:44 PM
    Sue, I'm glad you read about the pyramid model. I think it guided you in good directions. I agree that trauma presents unusually issues, but I think they are all solved by finding ways to make the child feel safe. They usually feel safe in the arms of someone they trust. A soft voice and eyes, and patience, are a good start in my experience making a child feel safe enough to venture out into a program. Thank you for caring.

    ------------------------------
    Jack Wright
    Child Development Consultant
    Success With Children
    St Ignatius MT
    ------------------------------



  • 10.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-16-2022 07:07 PM
    Goodevening,
    I have to agree with everything that has been said about children and behavior. I believe that it takes a strong encouraging home environment from the beginning to guide children and reinforce good behavior with healthy relationships. Also repeating the words that a child says and adding to the words to make sentences help develop their language and vocabulary. It also shows the child that you understand what they are feeling or what they are trying to say so the child feels like he or she is making their opinion known in an effective way.

    ------------------------------
    Elaine Bragg
    Quincy IL
    ------------------------------



  • 11.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-20-2022 10:18 AM
    I thank you for all the responses to my post. I understand that all behavior is a way of communicating something the child needs or lacks or is trying their best to express what they are feeling. I thank you for all the insights and views.
    I still am struggling with how to determine when it is 'over our heads' to deal with. General ed teachers aren't trained to deal with some of these issues. I do believe the pandemic has influenced the younger students we are dealing with. MY struggle is with the trauma some of these children face & when do we know we don't have the skill base to help these children. I have been in this profession for 27 years and I'm getting to be at a loss for which way to go. 
    I know some of these children have trauma to deal with that they don't even KNOW is trauma induced. A 3-year-old who tells you, " I don't have to do what you say." - I can deal with that but one who looks at you like they are looking right thru you and saying, "I'll get a knife & slit your throat wide open, so you die." - that I don't know what to do with. This is where I question that it is an issue of avoid or obtain. f it was a one-time thing - ok - but when it is the norm, I believe this is beyond my expertise. It is these kinds of issues; I struggle to find that it is a way to avoid or obtain. Also, when these types of behaviors show up, I have found that the children who exhibit them have an extremely hard time learning and/ or retaining what we are trying to teach them socially and academically. 
    We have encouraged counseling & parent-child interactive therapy. Some parents follow our suggestions and others avoid the issue themselves. I guess I will continue to try strategies to the best of my abilities & keep repeating activities to help them learn academically. I can't do any more than that, even though I feel I am failing that child.

    ------------------------------
    Sue Miller
    team leader
    Child Development Center
    Remsen IA
    ------------------------------



  • 12.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-20-2022 10:29 AM
    Sue I definitely think that when a 3 year old tells you that they are going to get a knife to slit your throat that child is in need of some special intervention, especially if you say that this is a repetitive behavior.  That child desperately needs some special help so that whatever triggered that kind of wording can be helped heal before it grows and festers.

    What type of outside support services do you have access to?  Is there a counselling agency that is working with trauma victims in your area?

    That child is absolutely telling you that they need help, and that makes sense that that is beyond the scope of an educational facility.

    ------------------------------
    Joanie Calem
    Music and Inclusion Specialist
    Sing Along
    Columbus, OH
    ------------------------------



  • 13.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-20-2022 12:52 PM
    Thank you, Joanie - I finally feel like someone understands that we can't handle some issues children have when the behaviors occur and that is it more than avoidance or to obtain something. This child has been seeing a therapist but not consistently & we have tried to emphasize the need for consistency. All we have used right now is our local Area Education specialists & the interventions we have been told to use aren't working for more than a month. I just came aware of another resource to use today which I am going to try. This is a sweet child who can show love & empathy but when the triggers occur (& we can't really nail down what those triggers are - we have tried), she is a whole different child! I hurt in my heart cause I can't seem to find the help this child or her mom need.
    Again thank you!

    ------------------------------
    Sue Miller
    team leader
    Child Development Center
    Remsen IA
    ------------------------------



  • 14.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-21-2022 08:57 AM
    Sue:

    There are challenging behaviors that need more intervention and specialized supports, more than can be taken care of in the regular classroom. This child's speech could be nothing but it could be dangerous for all involved. The child needs to be evaluated. The parents need to be apprised of the language and threats the child made. I know that in most States you need the parents' permission to do an evaluation. I would keep very detailed records of incidents and what preceded the incident and how the adults reacted.

    Is your center a public school or private child care center? The tools available to you differ based on who or what agency oversees how you operate.

    Best of luck.

    Nora

    ------------------------------
    Nora Krieger, PhD
    Associate Professor Emerita/Past Chair NJEEPRE
    Bloomfield College/NJ Educators Exploring the Practices of Reggio Emilia
    Highland Park, NJ
    ------------------------------



  • 15.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-21-2022 11:11 AM
    Sue and Nora,
    We are being asked these days to broaden our understanding of what constitutes "typical" behavior, because typical has truly changed.  Which makes things particularly confusing these days...what once were considered out-of-sync behaviors are now very common-place (I could write pages and pages on that!)
    But that said, violent language from a child is definitely something to be paid attention to.  It means something somewhere made a big impression on that child's brain and therefore their choice of words.
    I would echo what Nora said about trying to document when the child says this...there may be some kind of trigger.  On the other hand, something may be logged onto their brain so strongly that this pops out at various times of the day.  Making notes though I think goes a long way to sussing out what is going on and being able to give the child's parents some more concrete information as well.
    Good luck.  Thank you for being an educator who notices!  That is what children and families need from us now.

    ------------------------------
    Joanie Calem
    Music and Inclusion Specialist
    Sing Along
    Columbus, OH
    ------------------------------



  • 16.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-21-2022 03:21 PM
    Nora & all,
    This child is being evaluated again as the child was last year. Yes, the parent is well aware of the child's behaviors. Yes, the child is in therapy but not on a consistent basis. Yes, everything is documented. Yes, we have collected all sorts of data for the child. The reason I initially asked the question I did as the entity doing the evaluation is having us try different strategies with the child to determine the outcome of the child's behavior - to avoid or obtain something. They want us to determine that outcome cause they themselves can't figure it out. I don't want this child to be a statistic, unless in a good way, we are trying to get her help early as well as the parent.  What good are we if we can't get these children help early on & give them a chance to overcome or be able to deal with the trauma or whatever the causes are in their lives.

    ------------------------------
    Sue Miller
    team leader
    Child Development Center
    Remsen IA
    ------------------------------



  • 17.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-21-2022 03:31 PM
    As I later wrote, there are children who need more than we can offer in a regular classroom. It may be that this child is one of the children who needs more focused services. I can attest from my involvement with my grandson that the earlier these supports start, the greater the chance that all will work out in the long run. One key to success is the parents. Their role is crucial and critical. Helping them see what supports their child needs is very difficult and sensitive, but critical.

    It sounds like the thrust of the work so far with this child is to avoid placement in a therapeutic environment. The question is if the suggested strategies do not work, what will be the next steps in getting him help?

    Good luck.

    ------------------------------
    Nora Krieger, PhD
    Associate Professor Emerita/Past Chair NJEEPRE
    Bloomfield College/NJ Educators Exploring the Practices of Reggio Emilia
    Highland Park, NJ
    ------------------------------



  • 18.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-21-2022 09:41 PM
    Sue that does sound incredibly frustrating, especially as you said that it seems the therapy agency is wanting you to define this between the two options of behavior that is either to avoid or obtain something.

    I think your gut instinct that there is something else happening here is likely correct.  Hopefully you can find a different resource for support that might see the child's behavior in a broader light.

    In the meantime, know that even just your desire to help and support the child and their parent definitely will have an impact...it doesn't solve everything, but when kids know that we actually care, and when parents can feel that we care, that goes a long way to easing some of the distress.  Imagine how much worse it is when the school is communicating how much they don't like a child!


    ------------------------------
    Joanie Calem
    Music and Inclusion Specialist
    Sing Along
    Columbus, OH
    ------------------------------



  • 19.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-22-2022 03:35 AM
    Sometimes children act out behavior or words that they have experienced from home or activities involving language and actions that are not developmentally appropriate. Some of the video games are a good example of activities and experiences that are very influential as well as tv cartoons. Parent definitley need to interact with their children and rate video games and cartoons with the child's best interest at mind. Parents can also use those activiries to teach children that some actions are not appropriate in society and the consequences that a person will experience if they ever act out those behaviors in real life situations will affect their life style of being a free law abiding citizen.

    ------------------------------
    Elaine Bragg
    Illinois
    ------------------------------



  • 20.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 01-01-2023 02:42 PM
    Dear Sue (& others invested in your compelling situation),

    The magnitude of your situation is palpable. I feel the agony of grappling with the idea that your diligent efforts are "not enough" to counterbalance the negative forces that seem to be tipping the scale in the wrong direction for this child. Know that the power of positive daily interactions is therapeutic; every moment you create a positive experience, the brain is learning.  As you know, the brain learns from experience.  The brain's reactivity is shaped by experience.  And you are 100% right about the child not learning social and academic skills when they are in a dysregulated state.  

    I've been a school/educational psychologist for 33 years.  If it is your local educational agency (LEA) that is evaluating this child, they are tasked with determining if there is a "disability" and what special education services are required.  "Emotional disturbance" (ED) is one category of disability that exists, but there is usually caution about applying this label to very young children.  It can feel as though doing so would be blaming the child for their behavior--and they are certainly too young to "choose" maladaptive behaviors that you described.  Young kids with these extremes cannot access any better choice when they are triggered.  Sometimes the ED label is the correct label to allow appropriate intervention.  The LEA has to have evidence that alternatives available in general education are not adequate to allow this child to benefit from their access to the educational environment.  Sadly for all involved, this, in essence, means that initial efforts have to "fail" before special education services can be offered (and other eligibility requirements must be met).  This should not be used as an obstacle to evaluate needs or to prolong a dangerous situation, but a tool to help design effective intervention!  

    Document your efforts, the results, and continue to create positive interactions with that child in the meantime.  What you're doing is making a difference for the child and the family--and even for the LEA that is responsible for determining who gets access to [expensive] special education services.

    Again, this child is lucky to have you as a caregiver and we are all lucky for this forum to discuss challenging issues.





  • 21.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 01-01-2023 06:13 PM
    Anita,
    Thank you for your input - it is welcomed. I do realize that the LEA's are having to do more to prove eligibility for young children and by no means, do we want to 'label' a child - we want to find the right help for these children.

    We do document our efforts, the results, and continue to create positive interactions with that child in all areas of our day. I know what we are doing is making a difference for the child and the family, but we still have the sporadic & unpredictable moments with the child more than we should be having after 1 & a half years with the child. Actually, the child has regressed from where the child was at when the school year ended & doesn't seem to be making the progress to move on to kindergarten this coming fall. We are trying to help the LEA that is responsible for determining who gets access to [expensive] special education services all we can. I just am stating that we need some clearer guidelines from them for what they want for data & not lay the decision of what interventions to us on the general education teachers as we don't have their knowledge or training. 

    Again, I do thank you for your words and viewpoint. We aren't giving up trying to be as positive as we can be in everyday interactions. We are using repetition daily with reminders not just for this child but as a whole classroom. We have done more in-depth social/emotional activities this year than I think we have done in the last 10 years. We keep on going.

    ------------------------------
    Sue Miller
    team leader
    Child Development Center
    Remsen IA
    ------------------------------



  • 22.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 01-01-2023 06:35 PM
    Hi Sue,

    I can tell your efforts have been extraordinary. I admire what you've done and the issues you've raised.  It is only the second topic in all of my years on Hello that I have chimed in on. You really tugged at my heartstrings!  

    A lot of my work over 3+ decades has been helping navigate that space between general education programs and special education services. I'm in a different state, so there could be some differences, but if there is any question I could answer or any ideas you want to bounce around, I'm available to do so. This issue is very near-and-dear to my heart. Most of my work these days is supporting adult capacity and well-being in the 0-5 field.

    Warm wishes for hope & happiness in 2023!

    Sincerely, 
    Anita Osborn
    (530) 310-4839






  • 23.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-22-2022 05:30 AM
    Sue  thank you for this post, sometimes it is just nice to know you are not alone in your stress.
    I have a similar issue with one of the children in my care. It is interesting to me that there are other 3 year olds that say shocking things. The contrast for me is when transitioning I am treated to " misbehavior" alternatively in a blink of an eye the three year old in my care will lash out violently against another child then use the "shocking" language to keep me at a distance.
    The stress of not knowing when the violent behavior will happen is what gets to me. 
    Thank you again for your post there is truly strength in knowing we are not alone in our endeavors.

    ------------------------------
    Julie Drussell
    Preschool lead teacher
    Custer YMCA Child Development Center
    Custer SD
    ------------------------------



  • 24.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-22-2022 03:47 PM
    Thank you all again. I recently found another resource that maybe will help us after we return to class. It's not the outside therapist that is asking us to do all the determining the function of the behaviors & implementing interventions - it's our local education agency. But I pray that you will find a way to help your child in your care & yes, it is comforting to know that there are others experiencing the same issues. Thank you again for your support & understanding - we are not alone.

    ------------------------------
    Sue Miller
    team leader
    Child Development Center
    Remsen IA
    ------------------------------



  • 25.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 01-08-2023 11:42 AM
    The thing that appears to be missing from the thousands of words we've written about this puzzle are words from children themselves. What would happen if we brought in Vivian Paley, who died in 2019, but whose books are still with us?
    The first time I tried her storytelling and story acting approach (STSA), challenging behavior came in the form of a child, Anthony, who refused to participate in the teacher-designed activity. When we moved to STSA, where I asked children one by one if they had a story we could write down and later act out, Anthony began with this: "My baby sister died of SIDS. That's spelled S I D S."
    Trauma? Yes. Pre-pandemic? Yes.
    When his mother heard his story, she cried and told me, "he kept wanting to talk about it."
    Case study where parents, teacher and children were on the same page? Yes yes and yes.
    Rare for that to happen? In my experience, yes.]
    Anthony was 6, and so possessed of a brain that had been practicing emotional regulation for more years than the child we've been discussing.
    Austin, age 3, was expelled in spite of his first story to me - "Mommy A. Baby A. I wanna hang it in the window" - and a series of what I thought of as ground-breaking drawings of monsters. Once he told me "get your eagle claws off me" when I tried to stop him from leaping onto tables and flinging chairs at clean-up time. I was a volunteer, part-time visitor, and missing from the 2 years I spent in his classroom was finding time to work with teachers. When one of them told me he had been expelled, she explained, "it's so hard to help children who don't want to be helped."
    10 years or so after both the baby sister story and filming Paley, I team taught a course called Stories of Science. That's when I discovered that while Story Scribe A might report that Child X didn't want to tell a story, Story Scribe B would pop up with a "Hold on, this is what Child X dictated to me."
    All of the scribes were college students; the majority did not have an ECE background; so we sent them back to the classroom with instructions to write down all of the conversation: Their words, a child's responses, and the drawings children made as part of our version of story dictation.
    One of the adult scribes, Chris, drew a wrestler at James' request, and then spent the next 3 weeks dealing with James' tears of frustration because when he (James) agreed to try to draw a wrestled, his picture looked nothing like Chris'.
    Example of adults and/or teachers inadvertently causing distress? Oh my. Paley's books are full of example like this.
    So, speaking of "cause and effect social experiments," and "observations and data," what would happen if everyone tried taking dictation and sharing the results? Would we be able to come a little closer to understanding words such as "need, obtain, avoid, and cause and effect" - what they mean to us and what they look like when we explore them through the eyes of children's stories?
    I have boxes, folders and binders of thousands of stories told and drawn by children who were using story and play to make sense of moments, people and world events: from "bloody duckies," to "why you kill my best friend?," to "pashoo, pashoo the classroom schedule" to "getting shot in the balls," to "my doggy pooped everywhere."
    Those are the "challenging" bits; the "good" stories included coping devices, intimations of hope, resilience and joy. Many stories were exercises confusion, frustration and uncertainty. The most hopeful approach, I learned, was to try to always think in terms of To Be Continued.
    For video clips of Paley herself demonstrating STSA, visit the herdingbubbles website.

    ------------------------------
    Resa Matlock
    www.herdingbubbles.com
    ------------------------------



  • 26.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-17-2022 08:05 AM
    Hi!
    I once heard a speaker describe challenging behavior as signs of learning that needs to take place.
    When I see a challenging or unwanted behavior I ask myself, "What does this child need to learn? What skill does this child need to develop?"

    Seeing challenging behavior as a place to start to assess and plan for growth and a goal has helped me look at challenging behaviors differently.

    Christi Calvert


    ------------------------------
    Christiane Calvert
    Child Development Program Coordinator
    West Virginia University at Parkersburg

    ------------------------------



  • 27.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-17-2022 07:22 PM
    Sue, I have been trained as a trainer for the Pyramid Model.  I understand that the model presents behavior as obtaining or avoiding - that's only on the surface.  If it's story time and a child runs to the other side of the room, it's fairly easy to see the child is avoiding going to the story area.  Sometimes, it's much less obvious.  But once we see that they may be avoiding or seeking to obtain something (a thing, attention, a hug, something else), the real work starts - as others have said, to try to figure out the why of the behavior.  In the story example, any of these are possible, as well as others we know nothing about - perhaps the child doesn't want to be near a particular child, or the story reader has bad breath, or the person who hit or otherwise abused the child also used to read that story, or because the child wasn't finished building and doesn't want to sit, or anything else we might or might not be able to find out.  First, we provide connection to the child, just going near and letting the child know that we are here for them.  Over time, as we observe, we may see patterns emerge - the behaviors only happen an hour before lunch - maybe the child is hungry, the behaviors only happen when X reads the story, or when Y and Z children are in the group together, etc.  
    Also, repeated behavior is working for the child.  Perhaps running or yelling gets lots of adult attention.  This may make it happen more frequently.  If the child needs to connect and doesn't know many social skills, negative attention is still making a connection.  The Pyramid Model is focused on teaching the skills that the child needs, with specific strategies tailored for specific children.  If you have additional questions, please feel free to contact me.  Use my first name at the website.com

    ------------------------------
    Ellen Cogan, MS Ed - Owner, Chief Consultant - HILLTOP Early Childhood SERVICES
    NYS Early Learning Credentialed Trainer
    NYS Master Cadre, Pyramid Model
    Implementation Planner, Early Head Start-Child Care Partnership
    www.earlychildinfo.com
    ------------------------------



  • 28.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-17-2022 09:40 AM
    I think children display challenging behavior for various reasons. For young children I think speech/communication delays are often a cause. In addition childhood trauma can play a big role. Young children aren't born with coping/self help skills. Therefore, they may "act out" as a result. Some children display challenging behavior because they are seeking attention. Some children may have developmental or medical delays/issues which may be a factor. That is why it is imperative to keep the lines of communication open with parents. Ultimately, it needs to be a team effort with schools, parents and possibly medical professionals to provide the best support for children with challenging behaviors.

    ------------------------------
    Aliya Lawson
    Pre-K Teacher
    Camden City School District
    Cherry Hill NJ
    ------------------------------



  • 29.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-18-2022 01:23 AM
    Honestly, I feel yes, children exhibiting challenging behaviors are still communicating a need. As the pyramid model suggests, some children learn appropriate ways with the barest minimum of guidance but others need more assistance on learning those replacement behaviors.
      The longer a child uses these behaviors too shape their life, the more ingrained it is. it becomes their automatic. I can't be there only one who drives in automatic mode (my head space) and end up home because of this.
      Working to support learning new behaviors is key and the earlier the better. we've done a dis-service to children when we're more worried about them entering kindergarten ABC ready, but have no ability to work through a debate over whose pencil box and ends up screaming louder than loud to express their grief

    ------------------------------
    Eva Villarreal
    Trainer/consultant
    4eva.Trainer
    Houston TX
    ------------------------------



  • 30.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-18-2022 11:42 AM
    I love this conversation and am always so thrilled when people are exploring the roots of challenging behavior.  I agree with so much of what has been said here...we are seeing behavior that is outside pre-pandemic developmental expectations, a result of deficits in both social-emotional learning and skills, we are seeing behavior that is because of trauma experienced during that time and before, we are seeing behaviors that reflect skewed sensory processing because children's realities have been different over the past few years, and the reality of the people around them may have been fearful or traumatized which affected their emotional development, and outside time seems to allow for more regulated behavior. 

    I haven't heard of the Pyramid Model, and will now go look for it, but what I present about all of the time in the PD that I offer teachers on invisible disabilities (SPD/ACES/PTSD) is that behavior is communication.  To me, that is the broader reminder that can help me look/observe/interact with kids (and other adults) from the place of not categorizing a behavior as a particular this or that, but rather simply what is the person trying to tell me at this moment.  There is a reason that we all do what we do when we do it. 

    I very intentionally chose to go back into a 6th grade classroom this year at a school that prides itself on accepting everyone...and 48% of the kids are on learning plans.  I was hired to teach music, and I am getting a little bit of music taught, not as much as I would like and not in the nice, neat linear fashion that I would prefer, but more than anything I am challenging myself to make sure that I am connecting both with all of the kids: the ones with the most challenging behaviors and the kids who are flying under the radar and just sitting their quietly, and all of those anywhere in between.  I wanted to make sure that what I am teaching in my PD workshops is still accurate...because I do feel that the first step to solving challenging behavior and helping a student choose a different (more socially acceptable) behavior is simply to like them and appreciate them and let them know that you see them and you think they are great.  Sometimes I feel that is like taming a tiger...don't get too close, don't look them in the eye, don't push yourself on them, but from across the room smile, don't react when they are clearly trying to provoke you etc. And others need and want the closer connection.  And others just want to be seen.

    We truly have chosen a great profession, one where "what works" changes constantly!

    ------------------------------
    Joanie Calem
    Music and Inclusion Specialist
    Sing Along
    Columbus, OH
    ------------------------------



  • 31.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 12-18-2022 01:34 PM
    You hit it on the head, Joanie! Yes. That is what I saw with my grandson who has issues, many of which are not attributable to parents or particular others, but he is now in a school where they see the good in him and his intelligence. They care about him and the message is that they care. That can go a long way to helping kids. They can sense when people do not like them or think they are bad people.

    ------------------------------
    Nora Krieger, PhD
    Associate Professor Emerita/Past Chair NJEEPRE
    Bloomfield College/NJ Educators Exploring the Practices of Reggio Emilia
    Highland Park, NJ
    ------------------------------



  • 32.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 01-10-2023 10:25 AM
    Hi Sue;
    I have written a training on challenging behavior, including the common causes for the behavior, how to deal with it in the classroom, and how to avoid potential situations where challenging behavior may occur.  In my experience and research, there are other issues than wanting something or avoiding something.  Children may have had a change at home that makes them feel insecure.  Not enough sleep can disrupt a child's day. All these factors can play a part in how a child behaves.
    We also have to remember that children are learning how to behave; they need teachers to model for them the way one deals with conflict.  They should have, on a weekly basis, lessons on what to say and do when someone makes you mad, how to share, how to handle anger, etc.  Read books regularly on how we deal with our emotions.  Use role play and puppets to illustrate how we can work out problems.  
    Teachers can keep logs on what types of behaviors they are seeing from students, what the triggers may be, and with which students.  This is for the teacher's use (not for conferences) so they may prevent some behavior situations.

    ------------------------------
    Christina Feldkamp
    Manager of Curriculum and Education
    Discovery Point Franchising, Inc.
    Duluth GA
    ------------------------------



  • 33.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 01-11-2023 10:43 AM
    I use a technique called projection where I create an imaginary child that has similar characteristics as the child I am trying to help. I tell them that there is another child at a different school that looks like them and has the same shirt/shoes/hair color and I always use Max for a boy and Jennifer for a girl so I don't get caught in the "lie". It happened once over a decade ago and I learned my lesson! The child imagines themselves as the other child. I tell the child I'm helping that I need their help as the other child as I don't know how to help them and maybe they could help me with them? This has them become engaged in helping the other child as the focus goes off of them and their inner wall of resistance goes down. How often when someone asks YOU what's going on with you, you say "nothing" or "i'm fine"? Your oppositional way of being is also theirs as humans are taught to be oppositional since they are infants when they hear "NO!" over and over.

    I start asking questions about what the other child is feeling and why they are displaying the behaviors that don't align with the classroom. I love when the child tells me what they are feeling and why they display the unwanted behaviors through the eyes of the imaginary child. "Maybe he doesn't like when mommy drops him off and he knows that mommy will pick him up if he makes a mess..." Then ask the child what he recommends for the other child and what changes the family and teachers can make to ensure a Win-Win classroom and home environment.


    ------------------------------
    Ron Shuali, M.Ed.
    ECE gardener
    Ronspeak
    Davie FL
    ------------------------------



  • 34.  RE: Determining the causes of challenging behaviors

    Posted 01-11-2023 11:13 AM
    Ron that is brilliant.  Simple and brilliant.

    ------------------------------
    Joanie Calem
    Music and Inclusion Specialist
    Sing Along
    Columbus, OH
    ------------------------------