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Continuing my college education. Advice!

  • 1.  Continuing my college education. Advice!

    Posted 04-29-2023 12:04 AM

    I have been in early education for nearly 20 years in the classroom and I have my Associate Degree in Child Development and my General Education Associate Degree with a total of 103 credits. I have started getting a feeling that I need to leave the classroom and expand my early education career in more of a mentoring or coaching type position. I would love to work with families or new early education professionals. 

    Here I am almost 40 years old and I'm not sure which path education-wise I should go. Should I stay with an early education or child development degree program or should I look at a different type of program? What would you recommend?

    I am located in Michigan where the early education profession is in a huge shift and we are on the verge of universal Pre-K.

    The TEACH scholarship is available here and I would like to utilize that if possible.

    I appreciate your time. 



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    Trisha Dart
    Owner/Teacher
    Little Ones Learning Early Education and Care
    Comstock Park, MI
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  • 2.  RE: Continuing my college education. Advice!

    Posted 04-30-2023 09:21 AM

    Do you have knowledge and experience currently that you can share with other ECE educators or are you hoping to learn from the school you go to and then share with others?



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    Ron Shuali, M.Ed.
    ECE gardener
    Ronspeak
    FL
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  • 3.  RE: Continuing my college education. Advice!

    Posted 04-30-2023 09:29 AM

    I already do trainings and through some learning communities I'm a part of. I'm also a go to person in my area for information regarding changes occuring in early education in my area, licensing rules, handbook policy. I'm a part of several advisory committees too regarding early education. 



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    Trisha Dart
    Owner/Teacher
    Little Ones Learning Early Education
    Comstock Park, MI
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  • 4.  RE: Continuing my college education. Advice!

    Posted 04-30-2023 09:35 AM

    That's wonderful! Consider you don't need more degrees and debt to share your wisdom. Simply create workshops, submit them to local ECE focused organizations AND national events if you want to be a national presenter and then build up your speaking career. And I mentor ECE speakers because I love to and I have ECE keynote speaker mentors that helped me explode my business. 



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    Ron Shuali, M.Ed.
    ECE gardener
    Ronspeak
    FL
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  • 5.  RE: Continuing my college education. Advice!

    Posted 04-30-2023 09:41 AM

    I understand what you're saying. However, the path I'd like to go I need more education based on organization requirements. Most of the postings I've seen for jobs require a bachelor's degree or more. I've tried getting more information locally but I keep hitting walls trying to get information. I'm assuming I could get an early education degree but I'd like to find out what other options are out there. 



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    Trisha Dart
    Owner/Teacher
    Little Ones Learning Early Education
    Comstock Park, MI
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  • 6.  RE: Continuing my college education. Advice!

    Posted 04-30-2023 10:08 AM

    Hi Trisha,
    I think you have a few options here. I am an instructional coach for Head Start. I have also worked all over the US in different types of ECE settings. I got the mentoring bug when I started working at a school that  was structured around mentoring. Lead teachers were required to be mentors and were given a Teaching Assistant that was new to the field or a practicum student to work with. After I experienced that I only worked in schools where I was in that sort of position or access to practicum students. Many colleges and universities have lab schools that are already set up this way. Sometimes there are places that  have what are called Master Teachers and all they do is mentor.
    You might look into local home-visiting programs as well if you are also interested in working with families. 


    I think the degree option is up to you. You already have a Child Development associates degree, that will already get you in the door no matter what job/degree route you go. I started with general ed associates with a certificate in ECE. I didn't necessarily want an ECE bachelor's so I did Human Development to keep my options open, and then I did a family sciences Master's. Some of this may depend on if you have an age group preference. The K-12 world never interested me. I have always preferred 0-5 even when I was doing parent education. You may also look at the requirements on what a Child Development degree vs. an ECE degree are and determine if that fits into your life, like having to do a practicum/internship, capstone project, or just a final exam.
    Hope this helps!



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    Sarah Calvo
    TX
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  • 7.  RE: Continuing my college education. Advice!

    Posted 04-30-2023 11:48 AM

    Hi Trisha,

    I am the poster child for taking the long path in education.  I too earned an A.A. in early child development many years ago.  I felt I needed to go back to school when I started to feel less respected in the field for my level of education. What I learned through my early childhood degree has been the touchstone to all that came after.  

    After many years going back to school, starting and stopping at least two times, I earned a B.S. degree in psychology at the age of 48.  (I was inspired by Julia Childs who didn't make it big on Television until the age of 48).  Haha.

    Wanting to learn more about curriculum and instruction, I went back to school again and at age 60 obtained my masters.  

    All this to say that everyone is on their own path.  With an A.A. in Early Childhood and experience in the classroom, you are well on your way to achieving your goals.  You have a unique perspective that will serve you well as you continue your education.  Look up course offerings at various colleges and see what strikes your fancy.  

    Best,




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    Jenny James
    Director
    First Lutheran Preschool
    Ellicott City, MD
    www.jjames@firstlutheranec.org">www.jjames@firstlutheranec.org
    Co-author Dig In! Outdoor STEM Learning with Young Children
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  • 8.  RE: Continuing my college education. Advice!

    Posted 04-30-2023 12:04 PM

    The following statement is my own opinion as someone who has been working in early childhood since 2004 where I started learning how to teach preschool aged kids karate at a dojo. I got a bachelor's in business and didn't find much value from it. I learned sooooo much more working between dropping out 3 times. I learned more from real experience than theory filled classes. I personally find that college didn't provide anywhere near what real life classroom experience with a mentor watching me. I started presenting workshops for NJAEYC in 2007 and presented my first ECE focused keynotes in 2009. Now I will always suggest mentorship and real life over college. 

    And I got my M.Ed. in education with an early childhood specialization in 2016 to see what all the hype was about and I'll double down on my previous opinion. I get that my words might be that little triggering and that is the beauty of learning.  We get to challenge our pre-programmed mindsets (and we were programmed) and consider others that benefit you more as opposed to the traditional route which costs time and money. 




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    Ron Shuali, M.Ed.
    ECE gardener
    Ronspeak
    FL
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  • 9.  RE: Continuing my college education. Advice!

    Posted 04-30-2023 02:24 PM

    Trisha, it certainly sounds like you are ready for a change and have enough experience to become a mentor for others. I agree with another person who stated a few different avenues you could try. Search for ECE programs that are looking for mentors or check out local universities or colleges in your area to explore the options they might have there for you. I have a BS Degree in Elementary Education and I taught for 34 years in the public school system, I also owned an operated pre-school and child development activity centers. I retired in 2020 and am now writing Children's Literature Books. I am 62 years old and starting my next fun job. It is never to late to switch tracks and do something different or to enhance what you already might be doing. Another idea is to create what you want to do and start offering it to others on different platforms. Education is changing everywhere, so you might be on the verge of creating what might be missing in the ECE field. I hope this gives you hope to create the next job of your career.
    Patricia Dunfey Hoyt
    Self-Published Author
    Dragonfly Publishing
    Thornton, NH



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    Patricia Hoyt
    Author/Teacher
    Dragonfly Publishing
    NH
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  • 10.  RE: Continuing my college education. Advice!

    Posted 04-30-2023 03:30 PM

    Trisha, many others have made the point in this space that experience can be a much more powerful learning tool than theory, and I totally agree. However, I hear from your posting that there are some doors that you are not able to open to see if you want to pursue them without a bachelor's degree. You have a lot of credits, but a bachelor's degree usually requires credits at a 'higher level' of coursework than what comes from an associate's program. So I don't know if the TEACH scholarship will help you get where you want to go. Check out what courses and levels it applies to. Be pragmatic and keep your eye on whatever the prize you choose may be.

    So, as someone who worked in higher ed for a long time, my suggestions are these: (1) Talk to someone at your former associate's degree program schools - someone in a career services position perhaps? - and ask them about articulation agreements between their school and 4-year colleges or universities in the area. Sometimes that can help you with getting equivalencies evaluated quickly so you don't have to repeat stuff you have already learned. Some higher ed institutions have specialized programs for adults, where you put together a portfolio documenting what you have learned through life experiences and earn credit for that. You will pay for that credit  (someone has to guide you, then review and evaluate the portfolio) but usually it's less than enrolling in a regular course. 
    (2) Check out online colleges as they can sometimes be more flexible and offer alternative pathways. There are many of these now, some of which advertise in NAEYC publications. In my state (NH) we have one branch of the public university system that is totally focused on meeting the needs of adult learners through flexible and online programs. I would presume Michigan has something like that as well.
    (3) Visit any 4-year college or university in your area with programs you might find interesting, so you can talk with someone in person. They may be able to advise you as to the best program match to your goals. Most colleges offering bachelor's degrees have what is known as "individualized" or "liberal studies" as majors, and you might find that route to be helpful.

    Finally, don't waste time or money repeating content you have already mastered. Be an advocate for yourself and find an ally at the institution you choose to attend. ECE, Human Development, Human Services, Family Studies, Psychology or Sociology, Social work.... so many possible fields that will build on what you already know and stretch you in new directions. 

    Good luck!  ~Dottie



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    Dottie Bauer
    Professor emerita
    Antrim NH
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  • 11.  RE: Continuing my college education. Advice!

    Posted 04-30-2023 08:22 PM

    Thank you for the ideas. I have done a couple of them and there are a couple online universities that would possibly work and there is one that does take life experience. I so wish you all my years of experience counted more for some of these positions I've seen that I would love to do but because I don't have that piece of paper I don't qualify.



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    Trisha Dart
    Owner/Teacher
    Little Ones Learning Early Education
    Comstock Park, MI
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  • 12.  RE: Continuing my college education. Advice!

    Posted 06-09-2023 03:04 PM
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    Hi Trisha:

    I am the Coordinator for our Early Childhood Degree Programs offered at SUNY Canton.  We offer an A.S. in Early Childhood and a B.B.A. in Early Childhood Care and Management.  Both degrees can be completed online.  We are transfer-friendly and offer Prior Learning Credit options.  The Bachelor of Business Administration may be just what you are looking for.

    Visit: www.canton.edu

    Here is the direct link to the B.B.A. webpage : https://www.canton.edu/business/echd/

    Maureen Maiocco 

    maiocco@canton.edu



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    Maureen Maiocco
    Social Sciences Dept. Chair, Professor & Coordinator A.S. and B.B.A. ECE Degree Programs
    SUNY Canton
    NY
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