Open Discussion Forum

  • 1.  10 E.3

    Posted 04-04-2023 02:30 PM

    New to NAEYC Accreditation and putting together our portfolio.  Regarding 10 E.3 Show your policy stating that support staff and volunteers do not work alone with children. They must be with, and supervised by, regularly scheduled educators at all times.- What is considered a Support Staff?  How do you address Speech and Hearing therapies that need to occur outside of the classroom and there are no extra staff to supervise the Support Staff?  Does anyone have a family provide permission for pulling out/being alone so the therapy in the IEP can be appropriately addressed.  Or if the IEP states that an accommodation is the child can take a walk with their therapist and there are no staff to take the walk how do we meet this standard?  I'm thinking that this standard may be prohibiting some necessary services or the program's policy ads a disclaimer "unless outlined by the child's care plan such as an IEP".  



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    Jessica Vogt
    Operations Leader
    Greater Philadelphia YMCA
    Conshohocken PA
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  • 2.  RE: 10 E.3

    Posted 04-05-2023 07:18 AM

    In the State of Minnesota, DHS licensing requires that individuals working with children have the same orientation, training, and background check as an employee. Since it is not reasonable to us to do that for all of the district school staff (and we need them to provide the opportunity to receive those services), I have parents sign off on the district school staff being able to sign their child out and then back in when their interventions are done. Is this a possible work around?! On days when we have preschool screening, the parents sign off on the screening and I provide a staff to oversee the process. 





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    Jerelyn Seth
    Child Care Program Director
    St. Paul Midway YMCA ECLC
    St. Paul, MN
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  • 3.  RE: 10 E.3

    Posted 04-06-2023 10:21 AM

    The process you describe in MN, unless I'm misunderstanding, seems unreasonable and not feasible!



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    Cecile Tousignant
    consultant
    Child Tools Consulting
    Fitchburg MA
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  • 4.  RE: 10 E.3

    Posted 04-05-2023 08:29 AM

    Hi,

    When you read the item description (pasted below), I interpret our related service to fall under the "educator/teaching staff" role, not support staff. The examples of support staff include cook and maintenance, not Speech Therapists, etc.  

    Support staff: Adult employed by the program, but not considered part of the teaching staff. 

    Examples of support staff: Cook, bus driver, janitorial or maintenance staff, administrative support staff. 

    Volunteers: Adults, neither employed by or contracted with the program, who are regularly scheduled to provide support services to the program in administrative capacities (e.g., clerical work, creating bulletin boards or displays), classroom management, or other support tasks (e.g., cleaning, landscaping/gardening) without monetary compensation. 

    Examples of volunteers: Parents participating in a parent cooperative program, lunch aides, foster grandparents, reading buddies. 

     

    Educators: Those staff whose roles include working directly with children in the implementation of curriculum, program routines, and activities. Staff in these roles may hold titles such as teacher, head teacher, lead teacher, co-teacher, assistant teacher, teacher aide. Pedagogical administrators may also fit this role if their responsibilities include those listed above.



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    Kim Maruschock
    Cromwell
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  • 5.  RE: 10 E.3

    Posted 04-10-2023 11:57 AM

    Hello

    A therapist would not be considered support staff as intended with assessment item 10E.3.  They are considered to be trained specialists and would be able to provide one-on-one therapy.



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    Angela Rice
    Program Support Specialist
    National Association for the Education of Young Children
    Washington DC
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