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Wages for ECED teachers

  • 1.  Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-23-2018 02:33 PM
    I am interested in advocating for higher pay for teachers in the field of ECED.  Any suggestions on how to solve this or who to contact would be appreciated!  I do plan to contact government officials for support at the state and federal level for funding this iniative.

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    Linda Bollhoefer
    Sheridan IN
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  • 2.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-24-2018 08:04 AM
    I agree that we ought to be paid at a higher pay rate. In my research, I found that we do have to starts at the  local and state level. I also feel that we need to hold ourselves at a higher standard. I will support and make a positive sound with you.

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    Sirrea Washington
    Lawrenceville GA
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  • 3.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-24-2018 08:53 AM
    I'd love to see a change in the wages and respect given to ECED. It's a sad situation. Bill Gates and Ellen DeGeneres were discussing it on her show the other day when it was interrupted by the Presidents listening meeting he had with the teenagers of the latest school shooting. However, what I'm getting at is he is someone who works towards improving Early Education so maybe talking to him or Ellen might be something to think about.

    I gave up $6 an hour to go back to early childhood education, I'm happier. However, I do miss the money, very much. My youngest worked at Walmart for a while and made $2 more than I do as an ECED teacher, plus, he didn't have to buy things for his employment. I have to buy certain clothing (business casual), supplies, activities, crafts, etc. You all know the drill.

    Anyway, I'm not going to complain. If you find a way to change the situation, I'll help out!

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    Julie Davenport
    UPre-K Teacher
    YMCA Pre-k
    Harrisville NY
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  • 4.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-25-2018 02:56 AM
    I agree as well that we should be paid more for what we do. There has and is talk about EC teachers being paid at the same rate as public school teachers. What's equally important in fighting for fair wages and respected as other teachers is education. Early childhood educators need to meet the same educational requirements and hold ourselves to higher standards. We need to have tools to fight with. Those tools starts with accountability and what that means as an educator. We have to be willing to meet the same requirements as public teachers to justify being respected and paid similar salart. Together we have to figure a plan that is solid.

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    Michelle Brannon
    Early childhood educator
    Chellsdaycare
    Hammond IN
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  • 5.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-25-2018 10:20 AM
    I hear what you are saying about holding ourselves to higher standards but at this level I disagree. As a family child Care provider I make less than the average ece teacher in a classroom setting. I work long hours and do all the administrative work, supply acquisition, curriculum planning, meal planning and preparation and cleaning in addition to providing high quality personalized care for young children and forming responsive, supportive relationships with families. Me and my program meet the highest quality standards set by the Wisconsin DFC. I have an associate degree in ECE and 23 years of experience working in child care settings. Yet I still make less than a Wal-mart employee. To say that I need to hold my self to a higher standard if I want to receive a higher wage is a slap in the face, pure and simple. I am not holding myself up as an exception to the rule, I know crowds of ECE teachers who are even more accomlished than me, but the only way to make a higher wage in this field is to leave the group playroom setting. A house keeper and a nanny can both make a higher wage, as well as a trainer, a food program employee, a licensing specialist, a quality improvement program employee, etc.
        The truth is raising the wage of ECE workers in all settings requires the investment of tax dollars. Some parents can pay $15-$25 an hour for a personal nanny or prestigious program and do, while a vast majority of families struggle to pay what they do now for care. The answer cannot be to raise our infants and toddlers in factory farms. We have to do better than this! We need a serious answer to why raising America's children is not worth a living wage. Quality improvement needs to drastically improve worker wages, not just ask us to be better people and do more. We are already here to make a difference!

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    Emily Hefko
    Pardeeville WI
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  • 6.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-25-2018 11:28 AM
    I agree we need to create movement and momentum for wages that reflect our knowledge, competence, and skills. I don't think the dance of family child care versus center care versus preschool versus child care, etc. is getting us anywhere. Our issue is better compensation for work with our nation's most precious natural resource, our future, the children. Our internal comparisons with each others programs only succeed in showing taxpayers we aren't united ourselves, so why should they unite with us and fund early childhood wages.

         The issue is better wages. Period. Where will the money come from? The people that pay taxes, that includes us.

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    Ida Gatfield
    Cardinal Kids' Club
    Redwood Falls MN
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  • 7.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-25-2018 08:33 PM
    Ida, My post was not about Family Child Care vs center care. I only wanted to clarify how much we are all giving in all settings already and that asking us to do more to justify asking for a living wage is unjustified. We already deserve better pay for what we do now. Give us that, then offer us a pay raise if we do something more. The current situation just keeps asking us to do more to prove we are worthy of a decent wage without actually increasing our wages. I want to work directly with children, and earn a living doing it. Child care providers/teachers should not be the bottom of the ECE career ladder forcing us to move away from the children to earn more money.

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    Emily Hefko
    Pardeeville WI
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  • 8.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-27-2018 09:24 AM
    I agree Emily!  I didn't think you were imply one versus the other.  I do know, in our community, providers and teachers tend to end every discussion on that note.  This is how we continue to balance budgets and cut costs. by expecting early childhood professionals to shoulder the cost of quality.

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    Ida Gatfield
    Cardinal Kids' Club
    Redwood Falls MN
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  • 9.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-26-2018 12:33 PM
    I think the point was missed. Let me be clear about my response. My comment was not to devalue anyone who works in this field and the work that they do. My sole purpose was to give information that I am aware of that relates to higher pay and educational requirements in ECE. Policies are being changed and these requirements may soon be implented in all faucets of education, including ECE. This policy, if inforced includes home daycares and any other entity that is licensed to care/teach young children. Now this will exclude "baby-sitters" and programs not receiving state or federal funds. I understand the work and stress that goes into running your own facility and the long hours. However, just as most job or businesses, education plays an essential role when asking for more pay. Studies are not arguing that we do not work hard, put in longs hours, or not proving a quality program. What studies are saying is, several factors play a crucial role in children's learning, and growth and development. Years of experience is great and is taken into consideration along with education. That's called acoountability, so if you are meeting those requirements then you have accoplished a goal that stands out to others. Things are really changing in this field, it may not be until 5 or 10 years from now but, hear me when I say, ALL educators will need at least a bacherlor's degree. Pay will obvioulsy increase but other changes need to take place for that to happen. Yes, people working at Mcdonalds, walmart, burger king, etc. may be making more but that is not the point. Notice that when workers where screaming more pay, the companies threathened or in some cases replaced them with machines. Now obvious we cannot be replaced in this matter but requirements and changes can be put in place to push home daycares out. One way is to raise the bar on education requirements. I don't remember if you mentioned being accredited, but the requirements are slowing being inplemented to require more education, training, etc. and to compensate those who are accredited. I have been in the field for over 25 years, and is working on my 3rd degrees and have a couple endorsements so, I understand your pain and frustrations of being underpaid. Please understand that, I am on your side. Part of being a change agent is staying update on policies and changes as it relates to ECE. Educational requirements is coming from legislators not me. Now if this "talk" will may its way through and officially pass, I have no idea but, I will continue to follow the conversations and update those who are unaware and would appreciate this knowledge.

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    Michelle Brannon
    Early childhood educator
    Chellsdaycare
    Hammond IN
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  • 10.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-25-2018 05:17 PM
    Hi Linda,
    So glad you are interested in advocacy for workforce issues! In addition to connecting with government officials I recommend getting involved in the Power to Profession initiative through NAEYC https://www.naeyc.org/our-work/initiatives/profession. They are currently in the 3-4-5 decision cycles and your feedback is encouraged. You can respond to the following: https://www.naeyc.org/sites/default/files/globally-shared/downloads/PDFs/our-work/initiatives/decision_cycle_345_public_draft_1.1_1.pdf . If you are involved in any networks or associations please spread the word. And, remember to discuss this issue with families, staff, and others in the field. A collective voice helps. Jill

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    Jill Bella, Ed.D.
    Director of Professional Learning
    McCormick Center for Early Childhood Leadership
    Wheeling IL
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  • 11.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-25-2018 05:21 PM
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    Hi Linda,
    I forgot to attach this resource on the director as advocate for the early childhood workforce. You may find the information interesting.

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    Jill Bella
    Director of Professional Learning
    McCormick Center for Early Childhood Leadership
    Wheeling IL
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  • 12.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-26-2018 12:54 AM
    If you are going to advocate for higher wages for ECE teachers, then you must also advocate for higher tuition payments for the owners and providers that operate the childcare centers.  Without higher tuition reimbursements, you cannot have higher ECE wages. We are going talking tuition rates of at least $230-$260 per week per Child.  How many low income and middle income families do you think can afford that kind of increase in their tuition rates?  Do you think the government is going to make up the difference?  In most cases the current government subsidies pay $20 to $30 a week less than what the actual fees are in our area of Texas.

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    Tim Kaminski
    Director/Owner
    Gingerbread Kids Academy
    Richmond TX
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  • 13.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-26-2018 09:40 AM
    Last Thursday there was a webinar that introduced this new report "Transforming the Financing of Early Care and Education" You can find the full report at the website https://www.nap.edu/download/24984

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    Steven Erwin
    Chico CA
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  • 14.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-26-2018 03:17 PM
    Thanks Steven for posting this link. This is valuable information that I recommend all ECEs to take a look at. The information not only touch on higher wages, it also points to other important aspects that go along with better compensation.

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    Michelle Brannon
    Early childhood educator
    Chellsdaycare
    Hammond IN
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  • 15.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-26-2018 05:27 PM
    See the report Pre-K Teachers and Bachelor's Degrees: Envisioning Equitable Access to High-Quality Preparation Programs" by Emily Workman, Lisa Guernsey and Sara Mead, published by New America. 
    https://www.newamerica.org/education-policy/policy-papers/pre-k-teachers-and-bachelors-degrees/

    There was a panel discussion today at New America and it is archived: https://www.newamerica.org/education-policy/policy-papers/pre-k-teachers-and-bachelors-degrees/

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    Peggy Ashbrook
    Early childhood science teacher
    Alexandria, VA
    NSTA The Early Years columnist, Science and Children
    Early Years blogger, www.nsta.org/earlyyears
    Author: Science Learning in the Early Years, and
    Science Is Simple
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  • 16.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-27-2018 10:37 AM
    Thnak you Peggy for posting this link. I urge everyone who is involved with children on any level to read this article, get invoved and be an agent of change.

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    Michelle Brannon
    Early childhood educator
    Chellsdaycare
    Hammond IN
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  • 17.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-27-2018 01:14 AM
    RE: Last Thursday there was a webinar that introduced this new report "Transforming the Financing of Early Care and Education" You can find the full report at the website www.nap.edu/download/24984

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    I just received my new email from NAP tonight and the link to the full or partial report was available to me! I immediately followed the link and have downloaded the Introduction because it carries vital information aligned with my PhD dissertation research study on Building a Quality Workforce in Early Care and Education (ECE): Perspectives From the ECE Workforce in Florida.

    The report is in answer to the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine's 2015 report, "Transforming the Workforce for Children Birth Through 8". The current report again mentioned the inequities across childcare settings and the importance of our field to having a defined and unified purpose. To meet these changes, changes need to be made to where all states agree on the skills and competencies required to meet the parents' and other stakeholders expectations of equal access to high quality educational settings for ALL children across the varied settings and program differences.  Change is necessary to ensure our current teachers are of high quality because the research shows that teachers that know and understand child development helps insure the children ages birth to age 5 are ready for school. This in turn leads to future success in school and in preparation for the future workforce. The field of ECE plays a big part in the economic status of the US. Parents who are in the working force expect their children to be learning while they are working. Yes, this places demand for improvements in the preparation of the people currently in the ECE workforce. Leadership needs to change as well so we can move forward in an era of extreme change.

    I highly recommend the research of Stacie Goffin and Valora Washington. These women have been strong advocates for the field of ECE for quite some time. We need more people like Ms. Goffin and Ms. Washington to help push our field forward into the future of our young children, birth through age 5.

    When we can show unification for the field of ECE, the parents and policy holders will see we are interested in developing successes for our children for being ready for school as well as being ready to join the future workforce of the U.S.

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    Judith Behrens-LaRue
    ECE Education Coach/Mentor
    Bradenton FL
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  • 18.  RE: Wages for ECED teachers

    Posted 02-27-2018 08:28 AM
    HI... In the Fall I took a sabbatical from Penn State to look into and work with others on the Compensation issues related to the poor perceptions of the importance of the ECE field...and really the very disconnected field of ECE that needs to come together as Profession much like Nursing did.. but in own unique way.

    I have been working with the Power to the Profession initiative on the work group.  I have presented on what I found while on sabbatical... over 30 organizations are doing research or gathering research on the positive impacts of ECE for society.  Another series of books I recommend are:  

    Anne W. Mitchell in her three part series on the Art of Leadership series suggests that there are four main arguments for understanding and valuing ECE and the professionals who work in this field: 1) The Moral Argument that all children deserve quality ECE; 2) The Workforce Productivity Argument that all families should have dependable high quality care while they work; 3) The Brain Research Argument that children experience a rapid period of growth in the early years and so their experiences should be enriching; & 4) The Return on Investment Argument that high quality ECE has a greater financial benefit to society and families that out ways the initial costs.

    Also I have put my presentations, bibliography of related articles, and list of organizations who are working on bringing the issues of the importance of ECE forward... you are welcome to all..
    https://professionalizeece.wordpress.com/

    But as others have said in these posts, we should work together... Power to the Profession initiative  is pulling us together.. I recommend getting on and finding out what you can do.. http://www.naeyc.org/profession/ 

    Policy and Advocacy:  http://naeyc.org/policy 


    Also, I will be attending the Naeyc Public Policy Forum next week in Washington... i want to learn how I can be the best advocate I can be...I've been in ECE since the early 70's....I'm not stopping until I see our field professionalize.. So glad to see others have posted about this important issue...



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    Lynn Hartle
    Professor of Education
    The Penn State University, Brandywine
    Media PA
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